Gentlemanloser Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Seems, beastly. 245 points, +3S, AP2 CC Weapon and Gate of Infinity. There must be a way to utilise all this! Add him to the new cheaper Apothecary Paladin, with an attached Libby sporting a new Relic or two (unless only BC/GMs get them). Or add him to some Centurion maybe. Not quite sure how to use him yet. But I feel he, like PT equipped NDK and GKT are going to be the backbone of the GK army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Draigo and Loth new "Heroes of the month" ... but why would u take GK as primary? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3782658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Where did you get that info? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3782665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Dang serious nerf with the stat drop to str + tgh 4 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I always thought those states were a bit ridiculous anyways. Why is he any stronger/tougher than a normal space marine? Is his gene seed somehow superior? As far as I could tell, there wasn't really a fluff justification for it. And T4 isn't that big of a deal, seeing as he still has a 3++ and EW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I'm not sure if draigo has been nerfed or not. Although gate of infinity is nice and the loss of strength doesn't matter due to his +3 strength sword. That toughness reduction is kinda huge. Especially on an external warrior. Toughness 5 Eternal warrior is rather good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I hated the fluff but for 275 pts a very good HQ plus we are now the only marine dex with out a way to boost the statline of any of our HQ's Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I hated the fluff but for 275 pts a very good HQ plus we are now the only marine dex with out a way to boost the statline of any of our HQ's What do you mean by 'boost'? Do you mean like hide them in a >T4 squad? If so, T5 is nifty and all, but we never really had a >T4 unit that our HQs could join so I don't think we're really losing anything there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Thunder wolf mount gets you +1T +1W for a misserable price tag, SM bike, etc...now GK lost its only T5 and gets no other option to get one... I am just not happy with what GK's did turned into, some sort of data-slate. Loosing all the good stuff we had while getting medicore buffs.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 It would be nice to get a nice shiney thing in the dex and I think GW may have missed an opportunity but heho only 3 days to get the real story Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Is it constantly +3 or is that only against psykers & daemons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratil Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Hmmm, Draigo + Brother Captain Stern + Apothecary Paladins gives you FNP and Sanctuary for a 2++ on Draigo, but you do have to take Stern to guarantee having sanctuary and you lose access to the Libbies psychic versatility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt051 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Isn't draigo a lord of war? So he wouldn't take up an hq slot correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratil Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 That is correct Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Does he still snort that fine ass warp dust? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Draigo would get S10 with hammer hand, so there is no nerf, but a real boost. I have a little question... he has Storm shield + iron halo... this isn't a 2++? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 No, because an iron halo confers a 4++, and a storm shield confers a 3++ and neither modifies the other. It's just redundant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 so it's just garbage... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 depends if he gets hits by the vindicares shield braker shot and other such effects. The iron halo doesnt only confer rules, fluff-wise its a status symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brovius Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The Titansword is a flat +3S, so it's no longer just a bonus against Psykers and Daemons.He is back town to a normal Marine S and T value (there's no fluff reason for him to be stronger and tougher anyway) so I can understand that going away. A shame there's no Stormshield access, but Forewarning and Sanctuary do the same job. Keep in mind with the Lore Master warlord trait and Liber Daemonica on a ML3 Librarian you can have 6 out of the 7 powers in the Sanctic tree. That's pretty impressive, or with the same loadout you can have 3 from some other discipline and still get 2 rolls on Sanctic (cross fingers for Sanctuary!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 what is his stats in full Brovius ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brovius Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Someone posted a link in the other thread with photos. I've verified them, they're legit photos from the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think he's a LOT better now! S9 AP2 attacks and 2+ invul with sanctuary is very cool, the T4 is not very important considering that we never had a T5 unit he could join. For me, the dealbreaker is the fixed Gate, and this is why: Dragio+Tigurius with 5 grav centurions, deepstriking around, being invisible and twin-linked very nasty unit, and with draigo there's an excellent tank sitting in the front! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think he's a LOT better now! S9 AP2 attacks and 2+ invul with sanctuary is very cool, the T4 is not very important considering that we never had a T5 unit he could join. For me, the dealbreaker is the fixed Gate, and this is why: Dragio+Tigurius with 5 grav centurions, deepstriking around, being invisible and twin-linked very nasty unit, and with draigo there's an excellent tank sitting in the front! ^That underlining how GK dex is designed ... no more stand-alone dex like it used to be... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Noctis Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think he's a LOT better now! S9 AP2 attacks and 2+ invul with sanctuary is very cool, the T4 is not very important considering that we never had a T5 unit he could join. For me, the dealbreaker is the fixed Gate, and this is why: Dragio+Tigurius with 5 grav centurions, deepstriking around, being invisible and twin-linked very nasty unit, and with draigo there's an excellent tank sitting in the front! ^That underlining how GK dex is designed ... no more stand-alone dex like it used to be... Nasty but expensive unit. ;) That said, it is very intriguing to try this out. I'll lose friends no doubt though. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295439-the-new-draigo/#findComment-3783955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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