2 x Lvl 2 orc shamans with demonology

[Ozeryk_Sleipnijr]

This is a dangerous combination at 1500 pts. With a standard 3 x 30 orkboyz, the shamen start summoning horrors, they roll on the demonolgy list again, then a herold pf Zeeentch who rolls again for a power, who summons again etc

[Leif Bearclaw]

Not really. If you're going to do the 'summon spam' army, then doing it with actual Daemons is much better. Odds on those Weirdboyz (Shaman are fantasy Orcs) will mess up with repeated summons, as they don't have the perils protection Daemons do. This list is combining a subpar Ork build (infantry swarm), with a Daemons tactic that looks far scarier on paper than it's likely performance on the table imo.

 

Also, how does this relate to Space Wolves?

[Spacefrisian]

Boy would i have wished to use my Dark Eldar with pet Hive Tyrant against this, i would catch them all after he had summoned 20+ horrors or the likes.

 

As for SW, well they can use Sanctity is available.

[The Rose Princes]

it's called Tribble list around here.

you sacrifice, most likely, the shaman to get the spell off, which summons fearless Horrors, who are also psykers.
then they summon psykers, then they summon psykers, then they summon psykers....

 

suddenly, you have 8 additional units of Troops on the table to over claim objectives and you lose to attrition as you can't kill them fast enough, and you're ignoring the real problem of all the orc boys. 

 

the key getting first turn and killing the shaman right away:  Snipers/precision shots/total unit annihilation.  whatever you can do to get those shamen gone.

how this is particularly SW question i have no idea......

[Leif Bearclaw]

But you don't have enough warp charge to summon that many horrors that quickly. If memory serves the Weirdboys only generate 1 additional warp charge if there are at least 10 Orks within 12', not 1 per 10. So you're looking at 6 +D6 WC, not enough for a summoning cascade like that. Best case, you might get three units out (with 1 or two being more likely), which then have to whether the enemy's return fire, which is a tough proposition for predominantly infantry armies in a shooting-heavy edition.

[Ozeryk_Sleipnijr]

So you would need a droppod list against one of these lists and hope to kill at least one shamen in turn 1. It seems like The Rose Princes is the only one whos had actual experience against a list like this. Its very nasty as an all comers list when you randomly choose the scenario.

[Spacefrisian]

Its not realy an SW question, and i pretty much gave the solution as how to deal with it. Provided your opponent wants to pull something weird like this summoning stuff.