Landrick Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I have watched this guy on youtube for a little while now. For all I know he may already be one of us... either way, cool to see the new dex in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqLejfcdGC0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Great, but i am a little confused? How did he put 3 dreadknights? as we only have 2 Heavy slots? i am confused about FOC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt051 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You can take multiple foc at any point level as long as you have the min requirement. Think you can mix and match unique vs standard too but not sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It looks like he just took a CAD rather than the nemesis strike detachment. While this batrep is a cool showing of how the GK centstar may evolve, it doesn't really give us a handle on how GKs as a whole are going to shape up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Interesting fight. I would have expected Iron Arm on Loth along with his 2++ before Prescience. Also you're in need of some more terrain ha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He used Loth? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 While this batrep is a cool showing of how the GK centstar may evolve Haha, it got what, 2 days before getting pounded into the dirt by the assassins dataslate? Has to be one of the most short lived power builds in the history of the game. :p Too bad for the GK players hoping for a easy victory but I for one is glad to never have to worry about invisibility again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aun'O'Awesome Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is it just me or is this codex a massive improvement over the last? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arbitor marduk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is it just me or is this codex a massive improvement over the last? Looks that way to me too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's really not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arbitor marduk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's really not. Explain why not without just saying "psycannons ermeh gurd" because either than that you got buffs like your psylincer and cheaper units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aun'O'Awesome Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 · Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling It's really not. I bet you just wanted the Eldar treatment or loads of rules that allowed you to charge 3D6 inches, even after running just because you are Grey Knights, and that's it. God, Grey Knight Players have become the new Chaos players: bitching and whining about one bad thing in their codex, whilst ignoring everything good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787285
Gentlemanloser Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Read the forum please. The Codex is bland, grey, lost synergy and has three good units in it. DreadKnights, GKT and Draigo. We lost far too much and gained nothing in return. the Psilencer (outside of very niche scenarios) will still never be used. And most of our units *went up in cost*. Strikes and Purgation Squads have been rendered useless. More in depth analysis can be found in existing threads. This is *not* a good Codex, and is in no way an improvement on the old. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arbitor marduk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 · Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling All i heard was "er meh gurd grey knights need strategy to win like all other armies, why cant i be a noob and insta win all the time" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787296
Aun'O'Awesome Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 · Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling Read the forum please. The Codex is bland, grey, lost synergy and has three good units in it. DreadKnights, GKT and Draigo. We lost far too much and gained nothing in return. the Psilencer (outside of very niche scenarios) will still never be used. And most of our units *went up in cost*. Strikes and Purgation Squads have been rendered useless. More in depth analysis can be found in existing threads. This is *not* a good Codex, and is in no way an improvement on the old. I bet you just wanted the Eldar treatment You just described the Grey Knights codex as "Grey" which in my opinion means it is very fluffy. They had to lose everything that they did as the codex is about the Grey Knights, not the Inquisition. Also, Grey Knights are only used in niche scenarios: Daemon incursions, therefore GK should suck against non-Daemon armies. Thanks for the insight guy who joined 3 days ago. You know nothing about me, please don't presume. Yes, but I have viewed the topics for a long time and only recently got really annoyed that I needed to express my opinion. Also, did I say your name? No. So you don't know anything about me, I was talking about the community and you are all gits who are never happy with what they get Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787312
Gentlemanloser Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 · Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling Hidden by Kurgan the Lurker, August 24, 2014 - Trolling You quoted me... therefore GK should suck against non-Daemon armies. No. That's terrible game design. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787315
Casual Heresy Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Read the forum please. the Psilencer (outside of very niche scenarios) will still never be used. Challenge accepted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aun'O'Awesome Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You quoted me... Yeah... Because you quoted me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Knock it off right now. Aun, you are new here but it seem you and your brother Marduk like to troll a bit. That is fine, your choice. But it will get the both of you spaced. EVERYONE needs to knock off the personal attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arbitor marduk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I havent trolled at all?, and all i have said is that i am a fan of the new dex and got hate back so how am i in the wrong? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Getting tired of dealing with reports all morning because of some of you. Next one gets air locked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arbitor marduk Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Getting tired of dealing with reports all morning because of some of you. Next one gets air locked. Well my apologies, i was unaware my opinion upset so many people Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 I think it was more presentation than actual opinion mate. Also, you will have a hard time convincing anyone the dex is more of a win than a loss. Lay out your reasons instead of comparing us to chaos players. We had multiple units and tactics stripped from our dex (inquisition, servo skulls, grand strategy, paladins and purifiers as troops.) We gained mediocre relics and some point decreases (with some increases to offset) but a lot of previously standard upgrades have been nerfed, requiring others that just raise the cost of the unit again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3787370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Let me suggest a few specific points. Except for fliers, the anti-air is 6ed. The termies in 6ed couldn't stand up to a C:SM assault termie squad and with the loss of the invul+ from the NFSwords, the gap has expanded. The weakness in heavy fire support in 6ed continues in 7ed. In the fluff, the GK are brought in to add add antidaeman strength, not engage in heavy combat. Perhaps this is what GW has in mind as the role of the GK army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3788052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I don't buy that GKs don't need good heavy fire support because they only fight daemons. What about daemon engines? Do GKs not need to be able to hold their own against daemonically fused warmachines? And before someone says, "what about NDKs?" remember that one unit can't be our answer to everything. That kind of one dimensional list building is the exact problem with CSM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295664-new-codex-battle-report/#findComment-3788151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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