2500 pt Salamanders

[Strata]

I've been working on putting together a list to work along with the Salamander's RoW, and my vision of my detachment. Implacable vengance brought to bare on those who have turned against their brothers. This is my first real attempt at a Heresy list, so any pointers or suggestions would be appreceated.

 

Praetor

 Mantle, Terminator Armor, Mastercrafted Lightning Claw, Dragonscale Storm Shield, Covenant of Fire RoW

 

Firedrakes

 5, 2x Thunder Hammers, 2x Storm Shields, Master crafted Thunder Hammer, Heavy Flamer

 

Spartan:

Laser Destroyers, Armored Ceramite,  Dedicated Transport

 

Apothicarion

2

 

Tactical Squad

20, Artificer armor, Master crafted power weapon

 

Tactical Squad

20, Artificer armor, Master crafted power weapon

 

Pyroclasts

5

 

pyroclasts

5

 

Sicaran Venator

 

Sicaran Venator

 

Contemptor Mortis

Las-cannons

 

Contemptor

Multi-Melta

 

[Slips]

Few things first, that might not be obvious / I don't know if your aware of it : 

 

1) 30k is all about large squads (which you did with the Tacs) so, while base squads start expensive, each additional unit is relatively cheap. To that end, maybe fuse the 2 Pyroclast Squads and free up some points on upgrades, maybe try getting them a transport if you can. They're very expensive and are limited to their template weapons. Would be a shame to see them erased off the table before they ever go into range to fight back.

 

2) At 2500, your likely to run into lists that make use of Storm Eagles / Fire Raptors (I should know I made an RG list at 2.5k that had ~4-5 of them) but your lack anti-air. True the Las-Cannon mortis will do the job, but he is just one model and contemptors are big fire magnets because of what they bring.

 

3) Do you think 2 Laser Destroyer shots outweigh 4 Twin Linked Lascannon shots (both are free on a Spartan)? If not then reconsider since in a pinch the Spartan could serve as anti-air (I think thats possible).

 

4) Melta Weapons are generally not worth it. With the prevalence of Armored Ceramite (negates the melta special rule), your usually better off using non-melta solutions. In this regard, think about changing the loadout on the Contemptor. Maybe make him a Kheres Contemptor-Mortis. It'll add volume of fire and another anti-air solution.

 

5) While Sicarian Venators are good anti-tank solutions, do you expect to go up against list (at sub 3k) that require the dedicated fire of 2 of them to neutralize threats? If not, consider the standard Sicarian. Since it can negate Jink saves and has a load of shots, could serve as yet another anti-tank / anti-flyer redundancy layer so you don't get caught with your pants down.

 

6) Almost didn't see this, but consider getting another weapon besides a lightning claw on your Preator. With the Storm Shield, he won't be getting an extra attack so try for something that hits harder IE : thunderhammer or Paragon Blade.

 

 

This is what I came up with, might not be your cup of tea, maybe not even what your looking for, but I think it adds more survivability to your list : 

         HQ (825pts)

• Legion Praetor 

  Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon , Dragonscale Storm Shield , Mantle of the Elder Drake , Mastercraft a Single Weapon , Paragon Blade

  • Firedrake Terminator Squad

    2x Dragonscale Storm Shield, 4x Firedrakes, Heavy Flamer, 2x Thunder Hammer

    • Firedrake Master

      Master-crafted Thunder Hamme (10pts)

    • Legion Spartan Assault Tank

      Assault Vehicle, Extra Armour, Machine Spirit

      Armoured Ceramite 

  • Master of the Legion

    *

    The Covenant of Fire

Troops (1075pts)

• Legion Tactical Squad

  19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla

  • Legion Tactical Sergeant

    Artificer Armour, Artificer Weapons, Power Weapon

• Legion Tactical Squad

  19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla

  • Legion Tactical Sergeant

    Artificer Armour, Artificer Weapons, Power Weapon

• Pyroclast Squad

  Land Raider Proteus, 9x Pyroclast

  • Pyroclast Warden

    Artificer Weapons, Power Fist

Elites (275pts)

• Apothecarion Detachment

  Legion Apothecary, Legion Apothecary

• Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought

  Two Twin-linked Lascannons

Heavy Support (325pts)

• Legion Sicarian Battle Tank
• Sicarian Venator Tank Destroyer

 

This comes out to 2500 flush.

 

[Strata]

I've taken abit of your suggestions and i've come up with a, what i think, significantly different list. Is it better? Im not sure. But it is more themed i think. I've got with a slogging list this time, a larger number of bodies marching though everything in their way, backed up by some armored assets that play a more up close role then to be rolling boxes.

 

Praetor: 185

Terminator Armor, Master Crafted Paragon Blade, Dragon Scale Storm Shield, Mantle of the elder drake.  Covenant of Fire.

 

Centurion: 120

Terminator Armor, Librarian, Level 2

 

FireDrakes: 500

8, 3x Storm Shields, 4x Thunder Hammers, MC Thunder Hammer, Heavy Flamer

 

Apothecarion: 90

2 Legion Apothicarys

 

Tactical Squad: 275

20, Master Crafted power weapon, Artificer Armor

 

Tactical Squad: 275

20, Master Crafted Power weapon, Artificer Armor

 

Tactical Support Squad: 165

7, 7x Volkite

 

Tactical Support squad: 165

7, 7x Volkite

 

Contemptor Mortis: 180

Kheres Assault Cannons

 

Tarantula Sentry Gun Battery: 150

3, 3x Airdefence missile launcher

 

Sicaran Venator: 210

Armored Ceramite

 

Preadator Squadron: 180

2 Tanks, 2x Flamestorm Cannons, 

 

[Slips]

While footslogging in lager points games leaves you vulnerable to massed template fire, seeing as this is more of a themed fluffy list, I'm willing to accept it since really, if you're having fun, who am I to judge :p

 

For the Volkites, have you considered using heavy support squads (unless the slots are filled, in which case, the tac support are fine) and using Culverins? They're longer range and a bit more powerful so might have an easier time providing adequate fire support for the footsloggers as well as be used for backfield objective capping. But, if you don't think you can squeeze enough culverins in to make it worth the investment, I'd keep the squads as they are.

 

Only other thing that I'm unsure about is the Tarantulas. I'm not familiar with their rules so forgive me if I'm wrong, but : Would it be possible for you to get lascannons on them? Either by dropping one to equip the other 2 with them? It would be a bit more versatile in its usage since it'd be able to deal with ground and air targets(if it can). Unless the airdefence lets you adequately shoot at ground targets.

 

Beyond those 2 things which are really minor problems in my eyes, list looks good and can work.

[Strata]

I've always had fun when I play with themed fluff list. Isstvan survivors banded together hunting down the traitor legions with what they have avalable to them.

 

With the volkites I'm locked into the tac support squads with the use of my rite, I need the troop slots to have access to the heavy/fast attack units that I'm bringing along.

 

If I switched the tarantulas to lascannons then I would loose the interceptor/sky-fire set up that the missile set up is equipped with. I may concider swapping the contempter to lascannons, that I haven't fully decided upon.

[Slips]

Well, whatever you decide upon, you've got yourself a rather well rounded list and fluffy list so everything else is just cherries on the sundae.