Which brotherhood are you playing?

[corai]

Given that the new codex has finally given us a disposition of all 8 brotherhoods as well as the names of their brother-captains, GM and brotherhood champs, has anyone adopted these to theme their army? Plenty of standard marine players theme their armies around a specific company so I thought I'd see which brotherhoods and GM's are popular with the grey knight?

[Gentlemanloser]

I'm running the 9th Brotherhood. ;)

[Captain Coolpants]

I'm running the 9th Brotherhood. ;)

Of the super secret ninja space queens

[Deamon Wolf]

My own don't like the ones supplied

[skarn]

3rd. Stern is awesome. 

[Valerian]

Still running Grand Master Valerian

[HiveFleetKelari]

Running Brother-Captain (Grand-Master) Herodius here. Never liked running a Grand Master by name, since they're not likely to go out every time, but sometimes the rules called for it. I guess he usually leads a strike force that taps several brotherhoods. I'll need to look back over the new fluff to see if there's one in particular that stands out to me.

[Hidicul]

I'm going to be running the 7th, beat fluff wise to add in codex ]I[

[BladeGaurd]

First brotherhood, all about the armory.  Any tips on how to make a cool Grey Knight Techmarine, I was just thinking of taking the harness and putting it on an old justicar but that sounds to simple.

 

Other wise I would do 5th or 2nd.

Which I new more then just there make up and I am still naming my character after angels or angels like name.

[Raktra]

The brotherhood of special weapons and gadgets. We call ourselves S.W.A.G. Marines.

[Kenderleech]

The brotherhood of special weapons and gadgets. We call ourselves S.W.A.G. Marines.

We dont have special weapons and gadgets anymore.   You must be playing codex ultra-smurf.

[Valerian]

First brotherhood, all about the armory.  Any tips on how to make a cool Grey Knight Techmarine,

 

I just took the regular Techmarine and magnatized at the shoulder joints, then added arms and Shoulder pads from the PAGK boxed set, and added Storm Bolter and Nemesis Force Sword.  He looks good, and is quite clearly a Grey Knight Techmarine..

[Inquisitor Fox]

For my Techmarine I took a regular old pewter power armored grey knight, added the Techmarine servo-harness, and a plastic right arm with a Mechanicus shoulder pad from the vehicle accessories with a plastic nemesis force weapon.  Need to swap force weapons (going from warding stave to daemonhammer) but it should be just fine.

 

Oh, and I added a plastic loincloth from the regular Space Marine Tactical Squad so I'd have something besides one shoulder pad to paint red.  I did my Librarian with a blue loincloth so it fits.

[Adeptus]

Did anyone else notice that the Knights are listed as only having 8 Thunderhawks? For the entire fleet/chapter? That seems... low.

 

Also, I don't like how so many of the Brotherhoods are segregated in terms of composition. It seems like every brotherhood would have to go begging to every other brotherhood each time they wanted to put together a strike force, needing to borrow a Librarian from one brotherhood, some rhinos from another, a techmarine from a third, etc etc. I always thought that each brotherhood would be largely self contained, able to quickly put together a well rounded strike force from it's own members to respond to any threat. I mean, it isn't terrible the way they've outlined it, but I don't like it much. It also makes it harder (well, impossible) for me to create my own characters, which is very important to me.

 

Finally, and this is really a minor annoyance, the text lists each brotherhood being about 100 Knights, which means that most of the squads listed for the brotherhoods must be five man combat squads.

[thraxdown]

. I mean, it isn't terrible the way they've outlined it, but I don't like it much. It also makes it harder (well, impossible) for me to create my own characters, which is very important to me.

 

 

I feel the same way.  Now my Sixth brotherhood and Grandmaster Vorenus are no more.

[Kenderleech]

Or, we can go back to using the old daemonhunter fluff, where we didnt listen to the chief dish and ultrasmurf washer, and we have an undisclosed number of knights, organized into squads and brotherhoods, but we arent telling anyone how many of each.   Besides, if we DO tell them, we get to mind wipe them anyways.  and scratch another name in the curiass

[Reclusiarch Darius]

Did anyone else notice that the Knights are listed as only having 8 Thunderhawks? For the entire fleet/chapter? That seems... low.

 

Yeah well we have a bunch of Stormravens for orbital insertions, and we usually teleport to our targets anyway (its faster and harder to counter). 

Also, I don't like how so many of the Brotherhoods are segregated in terms of composition. It seems like every brotherhood would have to go begging to every other brotherhood each time they wanted to put together a strike force, needing to borrow a Librarian from one brotherhood, some rhinos from another, a techmarine from a third, etc etc. I always thought that each brotherhood would be largely self contained, able to quickly put together a well rounded strike force from it's own members to respond to any threat. I mean, it isn't terrible the way they've outlined it, but I don't like it much. It also makes it harder (well, impossible) for me to create my own characters, which is very important to me.

 

The Brotherhoods almost never fight as a single entity, they're always been split up into seperate strikeforces as per mission needs. If a full Brotherhood was being mobilised for war, they'd deploy with significant support from other Brotherhoods as well (vehicles, Librarians, fleet support etc). 

Finally, and this is really a minor annoyance, the text lists each brotherhood being about 100 Knights, which means that most of the squads listed for the brotherhoods must be five man combat squads. 

 

Yeah but that's only a nominal figure, we don't follow the Codex Astartes at all. Knights consider a squad to still be combat effective at 5-man, hence a Brotherhood can be halved in its strength and still be considered functioning. Considering the losses the Chapter suffers, its hardly surprising they have to be sparing and stretch their warriors thin. I'm sure when they have an influx of recruits, those squads get fleshed out into full strength. So a Brotherhood could be more than a 100 strong depending on the time. 

 

I feel the same way.  Now my Sixth brotherhood and Grandmaster Vorenus are no more.

 

 

The roster in the codex is just the latest Chapter's heroes. You could always dig into the rich history of the Chapter to make your own heroes. Those Grandmasters and Brother-Captains weren't always around. 

[Adeptus]

Yeah well we have a bunch of Stormravens for orbital insertions, and we usually teleport to our targets anyway (its faster and harder to counter).

This is true, but if you think about BFG (which I know not everyone plays) then the chapters entire Thunderhawk fleet wouldn't even be two Attack Craft markers, and those things aren't meant to be interpreted literally! Eight is a vanishingly small number.

 

The Brotherhoods almost never fight as a single entity, they're always been split up into seperate strikeforces as per mission needs. If a full Brotherhood was being mobilised for war, they'd deploy with significant support from other Brotherhoods as well (vehicles, Librarians, fleet support etc).

You're right, but does it really make sense that the 6th Brotherhood can't use any Rhinos, Landraiders or Dreadknights without asking the 1st Brotherhood first? Even if the 6th Brotherhood (just as an example) only wanted to deploy two strike squads as a response, they have to go completely without armoured support unless they ask for assistance from the 1st Brotherhood?

 

It just seems like a needless compartmentalization.

 

a Brotherhood could be more than a 100 strong depending on the time.

Well, I'm going to assume that all references to a 'Squad' in the Brotherhood listing refer to a full, ten man squad. Which gives the Grey Knights significantly more manpower.

 

The roster in the codex is just the latest Chapter's heroes. You could always dig into the rich history of the Chapter to make your own heroes. Those Grandmasters and Brother-Captains weren't always around.

This is true, but I always prefer my forces to be current, not historical. I like to play for the narrative of the game, and to explore the stories of my characters and my forces through the games I play and to me, there is less incentive to do that when 1) the characters are already mandated by GW for me or 2) my characters must all be dead in the current timeline.

[corai]

I got the impression that whilst, for example, the 1st brotherhood and GM are responsible for the armoury, this is largely ceremonial so every GM is given responsibility fir something, rather than every tank belongs to the 1st Co. Much the same way that there is a master of the fleet in a codex chapter, but he doesn't really control the chapters fleet and vessel disposition, it's a ceremonial title

[Kenderleech]

Its the administratums fault.   They require billing codes for repairs.   The first has to pony up for vehicle repair, the second for space vehicle, the third buys the office supplies, the fouth makes thier budget, the fifth pays medical, the sixth does the landscaping and groundsskeeping, the 7th distracts the IRS and the 8th deals with HR

[Inquisitor Fox]

I like to view those sort of "snapshot" lists as just a snapshot.  I can quite realistically say my guy is the replacement for one of those ones that fell down dead.  Or he simply is a Justicar given field command or some such thing.  Heck, there's an entire game where a sergeant is in command of everything after all ;)