Should they bring BFG back?

[Plaguecaster]

I don't really know why but space ships have all ways seemed to be a strong interest for me I loved the thought of massive fleet battles in the dead of space with both sides fighting to board or destroy their enemy, my first taste of fleet action in 40k was the old novel Execution hour now that was a great book which gave quite a good insight to how a 40k space ship operated. unfortunately this was around the time GW officially stopped BFG and whilst I have most of the pdfs on the rules and different ships I have been unable to actually get hold of any of the old  ship models even diy attempts at making my own doesn't seem to work. Any way this has got me thinking I know there may be little chance of GW doing it any time soon but who else likes the fleet aspect of 40k as well and would want Battle fleet gothic to return? If it did return I would probably hope GW would make the ships bigger than they were maybe the size of a rhinio or bigger so they would stand out more and be fun to paint up as part of a fleet. I know most of this is just hoping for the impossible but we can dream can't we

[spu00sed]

I loved BFG. Such a great game. Planning ahead, all the different fleets.

 

I wouldn't like the ships to increase in size. They are suppose to engage at long distances, where you have to plan ahead where you fire a laser.

 

I would like them to be resculptured. The imperial ships are suppose to have decks of guns, but the models only have a single gun deck.

[*Furyou Miko]

Yes.

[incinerator950]

Why not?

 

I would even love Epic or just Adeptus Titanicus to return.

[Vesper]

Yes and no.

 

Yes because it's a good game, and because the sculpts are great.

No because my fleet is finished, and I don't want to buy new awesome stuff they'd release :p.

[Kol Saresk]

Yes. And to not only have what they had before, but have new ship classes and even a ship creator to let you build your own flagship. Obviously balanced within reason. ie Tons of guns but no engine speed.

[Ion]

Oh yes, very much so.

 

I recently bought on eBay a bunch of cruisers to represent my Sons of Horus expeditionary fleet. Battlefleet Gothic Captured my imagination so thoroughly that even though I haven't read the rules in years I still can imagine how much fun it would have been. Unfortunately I only ever got to play a single game around 2004-5 during a Games Day...

[Captain Semper]

Yes please, thank you.

[Cactus]

Yes, if the fleets and scenarios were more balanced.

[Chaeron]

Definitely - it's one of the few games that I think would sell well now.

[Wraith776]

Of course. New plastic sculpts would be amazing if they brought it back. 

[Leif Bearclaw]

All the yes. Shame it's one of at least 2 dozen things the modern company is never going to implement. 

[Subtle Discord]

To think, instead of doing a proper reboot of Battle Fleet Gothic we got... Dread Fleet, which they promptly discontinued. You'd think if they were willing to invest what they did on the face-plant that was DF, someone at HQ would have perhaps considered some BFG development along side DF. Even if it was as quickly abandoned, at least BFG would have been refreshed and fleshed out before being put out to pasture.

 

I still think GW is really missing a massive opportunity by ignoring lower-model-count games, and other game styles (a la BFG) that are an excellent introduction to the GW games system and universe. Every good dealer knows you need to give them a free (Read: low cost) taste to get them hooked. BloodBowl, GorkaMorka, and Battle Fleet Gothic are all sorely missed, personally.

[Xenith]

Even though I have only played a game or two of gothic, I love the idea, and the models.

 

I'd like a re-release, and for GW to be ok with people playing it in-store.

[Seahawk]

ALL OF THE YES.

[Inquisitor Kravin]

YES!

[Vesper]

I miss Necromunda too :(.

[depthcharge12]

30k BFG?

 

 

 

C-c-c-c-Yeah Baby!

[Stercus]

I remember about eight years ago when I was trying to get games for my fantasy army, the only thing anyone was playing at my local GW was BFG. Must have been a dozen games going on on veterans nights every week. I could definitely see it shifting in numbers.

To be fair to GW, I can't endorse Dreadfleet as a car crash. I played it in store a couple of times for giggles and it was pretty entertaining. The mechanism for the wind-based movement of the ships was unusual and made for some interesting strategies.

[daveNYC]

Of course. New plastic sculpts would be amazing if they brought it back. 

 

I actually like the heft of the metal battleships.

[*Furyou Miko]

Wind-based movement was good, but the wind shifted about way too much to be realistic. The kinds of wind shifts you're looking at in Dreadfleet mean you're in a lot of trouble as a sailor... or that you're in the Solent, I guess, which is probably where they did their research.

 

daveNYC - have you heard about the all-metal 40k army? There's a real heft to the Adepta Sororitas models, you really feel like you've got something tangible to play with.

[GrandMasterAralia]

Oh yeah bring that game back big time! Recently got a friend of mine hooked on it and we played a 2k game. He burrowed my chaos fleet and I used my tyranid fleet. Great system with lots of tactics and strategy.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

daveNYC - have you heard about the all-metal 40k army? There's a real heft to the Adepta Sororitas models, you really feel like you've got something tangible to play with.

 

 

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[Lucien Eilam]

Dread Fleet, which they promptly discontinued.

It wasn't discontinued. It was released as a limited edition from the start, like Space Hulk.

 

I still think GW is really missing a massive opportunity by ignoring lower-model-count games, and other game styles (a la BFG) that are an excellent introduction to the GW games system and universe.

The problem with that idea is that at some point GW have tried practically every possible variation on small skirmish games, including giving the rules away for free. They were selling skirmish games for the majority of their history. Really, nobody in the world can have better data on selling skirmish games alongside large scale war games than GW. And yet, they've decided not to do it.

 

So you can only really conclude one of two things:

 

1) GW looked at this great wealth of sales data, and decided they wanted to make less money.

 

2) Skirmish games don't actually have the net positive effect on their bottom line that you assume they must.

 

And let's face it, the answer isn't going to be number 1, is it?

[Olis]

Would I like BFG come back? Hell yes. The same goes for all of the specialist games. Inquisitor, Necromunda, Epic and the rest have a dedicated following for a reason. 

 

In my opinion - which is not exactly business-attuned so pick up your salt tubs brothers and sisters - GW could benefit from leasing these games to smaller companies. The smaller companies would then produce and support the rebooted specialist games, perhaps with oversight, and I imagine GW could spend much less than they used to to keep these games alive. The risks and rewards would fall to the lease-holders and GW could pick up a steady cheque regularly. I know there's potential flaws (great and small) in the idea but please indulge me and my pie in the sky rambling. ;)