tomsev Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 10 pallies with draigo and Stern with tiggy rolling for endurance on biomancy making him and his squad 4++/3++ w/Stern 2++ on draigo and all of them sternal warriors... Oh and 4+ fnp... Im gonna run this next time i run into nob bomb lists... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (shrug) Centurions do it better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 True but centurions, well firstly everyone and their mum is using them, and they are either shooty or assaulty, where as palliés arent seen that much any more... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 For a reason... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 They really that bad ?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 T4 multi-wound stopped being relevant after Riptides were born Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 We used to be able to purchase 5 Paladin and 5 Strikes (with three Psycannons), for the cost of 10 GKT with 2 Psycannons. This was a little risk/reward. More Psycannons shots, more attacks, more wounds. But vulnerable to ID. I'd take that option back in the day over 10 GKT *all the time*. Now, with the increased cost of Strikes, and the reduce cost of GKT, this isn't viable. I wouldn't take Paladin now *at all*. Not with 33 point Terminators... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thats why i take tiggy rolling on biomancy going for power 5 'endurance' giving any unit you chose within 24inches 4+ fnp AND eternal warrior... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Why don't just a libby with ml3 and libber daemonica + tigurius?? you will for sure get the most of psyquic powers you want... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Grey knights cant roll on biomancy and Stern and draigo both add some good buffs to the unit notre to mention draigo rolling round a 2++... Comes out to about 1000 pts but its 30wounds 2++ at worst 4++ with 4+ fnp and all eternal warriors... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3797793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Noctis Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 By allying Tigarius and a unit of troops for an AD, you may as well just bring in 5 Centurions too... A fully decked out Paladin squad of 10 is uber expensive too. If you really want to use Endurance effectively, I'd give it to a squad of Purifiers so that they could run Psycannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Pally x5, Psycannon x2 (315) Centurion x3, Grav x3 (250) - I think, can't remember off the top of my head. :) Go Grav Cents over Paladin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 But Centurions look so stupid! And their lore is so stupid! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purifying Tempest Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The biggest problem I have with the list isn't actually the paladins. It is 10 paladins. That is an awful point sink, especially with 2 melee specialized ICs and a support HQ as well. That unit eclipses 1000 points. They likely won't assault turn 1, they may assault turn 2... but even then they need to assault EVERY turn from there out and wipe out high value targets on each assault in order to be any measure of useful. While it is nice to have something like 4 attacks (5 on the assault) on 9 paladins with hammerhand, force, FnP, Sanctuary, etc etc etc... that's a lot of your list dedicated to that tactic, a lot of warp charges (a well-timed Deny the Witch on Tiggy's biomancy power or Sanctuary, or even Gates of Infinity really hurts). It looks awesome on paper, but 1's do happen in 40k, and that is almost a deathstar to the n'th-extreme. Cents work better because Draigo can Gates them around for easier line of sight or hitting important targets... and they don't need to assault. This blob needs to get off the assault, and 7th edition isn't very kind towards that end. For what it is worth though, I'd give that blob a half a board clearance... you'd certainly have whatever objective(s) that are anywhere near by... unless I could Objective Secure it out from under you or toss a throw-away squad at you just to deny you the point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Grav cents it is then... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Isn't it always. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid!I agree... Ur comment made me think of Jeremy clarkson behind the wheel of some étrange sports car Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid!I agree... Ur comment made me think of Jeremy clarkson behind the wheel of some étrange sports car So marine inside marine is stupid...oh wait we have one of those too...Dread Knights... But yeah centurions looks like marines with some nasty eating habits... go go FAST FOOD MARINES! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3798840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid!I agree... Ur comment made me think of Jeremy clarkson behind the wheel of some étrange sports car I don't think that's a compliment Centurions are described as being an exoskeleton, but pre 6th ed codices described terminator armour as being an exoskeleton Due to the powerful exoskeleton and power sources built into their armour, models in Terminator armour have the Relentless universal special rule.But that seems to have been retconed for the centurions as every codex since 6th edition makes no mention of this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3799196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid!I agree... Ur comment made me think of Jeremy clarkson behind the wheel of some étrange sports car So marine inside marine is stupid...oh wait we have one of those too...Dread Knights... But yeah centurions looks like marines with some nasty eating habits... go go FAST FOOD MARINES! That's why I use these for my Dreadknights. The GW ones are, indeed, stupid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3799337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid!I agree... Ur comment made me think of Jeremy clarkson behind the wheel of some étrange sports car So marine inside marine is stupid...oh wait we have one of those too...Dread Knights... But yeah centurions looks like marines with some nasty eating habits... go go FAST FOOD MARINES! That's why I use these for my Dreadknights. The GW ones are, indeed, stupid. I need more info brother! What is that and where do I get some? Is the size comparable and the cost? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3799342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 But they're so hideous! And stupid!I agree... Ur comment made me think of Jeremy clarkson behind the wheel of some étrange sports car So marine inside marine is stupid...oh wait we have one of those too...Dread Knights... But yeah centurions looks like marines with some nasty eating habits... go go FAST FOOD MARINES! That's why I use these for my Dreadknights. The GW ones are, indeed, stupid. I need more info brother! What is that and where do I get some? Is the size comparable and the cost? That is a Leviathan from Dreamforge. They come in two scales, 28mm and 15mm. The 28mm one is about the height of a Warhound. The 15mm one is, luckily, about the height of a Dreadknight. It's a little bit taller, and a bit bulkier around the shoulders, but it's similar enough that it doesn't look out of place. It fits easily onto the Dreadknight base. Here's a video of a comparison between an Imperial Knight and a Leviathan, so you can get an idea of the scale. I get mine for about $80 AUD each off eBay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3799370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidicul Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I haven't seen the cents yet, but could the guns fit on our terms without looking ridiculous? It would also tie them into our force more. Been contemplating getting tactical weapon bits and putting them onto our strikes to tie the SM detachment into my GK more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3799372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Every time I see the exposed midriff and spine, I shudder. It's smexy model, no doubt, but I can't stand the open midriff and exposed spine. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296170-just-thought-of-this/#findComment-3800119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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