SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Gentleman, I am knew to the Grey Knights and have not posted for a while. After a quick look here and a good look in the new codex, I have a problem. It's all good and well paying the points for a GM with extra kit and making him a monster in CC, but I can not see a way of giving him Eternal Warrior and at Toughness 4 he will get wiped by anything St 8 or above!!! Am I missing something obvious? Can I just say, I am new to 7th too. I have the rule book and am working my way through it. I don't get to play often, in fact my first game with GK and 7th is not until 28/12/14. Help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Draigos your man. Other than that no dice for eternal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 So I didn't miss anything. Oh well. Thanks for confirming my worst fears. Pick your targets and your fights then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The only way for us to get eternal warrior is to ally in a psyker that can roll on biomancy and hope to get fortitude. Sorry, but them's the brakes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well draigo is the best eternal warrior in the game and dirt cheap for what he does. Also grand masters are no push over. Nearly anything that can ID a GM in one hit will usually get smoked in the return attacks by force, or even before they strike by halberd/falchions or soul glaive. Theres also a decent chance the GM can roll up precognition which is like a 2.5++ invuln, and/or be buffed by sanctuary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Eternal Warrior is overrated IMO. You can still die from getting your wounds chipped off, which is how most models die. Instant Death is a problem, but nothing is unkillable, even with EW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Eternal Warrior is overrated IMO. You can still die from getting your wounds chipped off, which is how most models die. Instant Death is a problem, but nothing is unkillable, even with EW. Wait, wasn't this the arguement against Paladin? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purifying Tempest Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Eternal Warrior is overrated IMO. You can still die from getting your wounds chipped off, which is how most models die. Instant Death is a problem, but nothing is unkillable, even with EW. Wait, wasn't this the arguement against Paladin? ;) I thought still being 55 points for melta/lascannon fodder was? My mistake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Wait, wasn't this the arguement against Paladin? Even if Paladins had Eternal Warrior, they're still overpriced, but they'd at least survive Riptides...somewhat (it still causes a bunch of AP2 wounds, so it would maul the squad as opposed to vapourising everything). 55pts minimum is just absurd, because you invariably want to give them psycannon and nemesis upgrades...it adds up so fast, the Apothecary reduction barely matters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 To be fair, when out GKT were 40 points, 15 points for the extra wound/WS was a fair cost. But Paladin needed thier cost reduced to reflect our cheaper GKT. 22 points for the extra wound (2/3rds the cost of another GKT...) is just too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 To be fair, when out GKT were 40 points, 15 points for the extra wound/WS was a fair cost. I agree, but that is also from an era when wound allocation kept multi-wound units alive longer, and no Riptides existed. Those latter two changes are really why Paladins are unplayable. Not to mention Centurions now exist, and do most of the Paladins job better arguably. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3800763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 For the cost of Paladins I would rather add more Terminators. I can get 5 Terminators for the price of 3 Paladins. Yes there are more wounds on the Paladins 6/5, but more firepower on the Terminators 5/3, more attacks on the Terminators 10/6. There is no argument really, Paladins cost too much to be a viable option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296281-can-we-make-an-eternal-warrior/#findComment-3801192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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