Blood and Talon - Pre Heresy Raven Guard

[Wyvern]

You could always use cork/ ( the polystyrene feet you get for puttin under chair legs? No idea what they're called) to do rubble and paving etc and use greys, bone etc to do a ruined city scape should contrast quite well and be pretty easy to achieve just dry brushing really

[Fire Golem]

Could try that yeah. I feel like resin bases will be better than anything I'll be able to achieve though.

 

I picked some I like;

http://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures/bases-for-miniatures/round-bases-for-miniatures/shale-round-bases/shale-bases-round-25mm-5

 

http://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures/bases-for-miniatures/round-bases-for-miniatures/shale-round-bases/winter-shale-bases-round-25mm-5

These for like mountains/snowy

 

http://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures/bases-for-miniatures/round-bases-for-miniatures/steel-invasion/-10-beveled-edge-25mm-steel-plating

 

http://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures/bases-for-miniatures/round-bases-for-miniatures/flight-deck/-10-beveled-edge-25mm-flight-deck-01

Starship ones.

 

Or any other suggestions..?

[Slips]

You could use :http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Etched_Brass/ZONE_MORTALIS_25MM_BRASS_ETCH_BASE__DETAILS.html as a relatively easy space ship full (since your a Brit it doesn't cost you 20$ :P )

 

Or http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Etched_Brass/ETCHED-BRASS-RAVEN-GUARD-SYMBOLS.html to add some RG detailing to any bases you chose / more iconography. 

[Wyvern]

Have you checked out secret weapons bases? They've got some pretty cool stuff

[Fire Golem]

Those Zone Mortalis brass things look awesomeee.

 

I think some of them on Element Games are secret weapons ones.

 

What about desert?

[Slips]

Hmm..if you could make it look like a desert at night (night op) then yeah, go for it. RG in the Desert in the day doesn't sit well in my minds eye.

 

Snow bases are nice, will give more B&W contrast.

 

Spaceship Hulls / Building interiors make for nice "infiltration" themed bases.

[Fire Golem]

Yeah okay scrap the desert I agree. I agree on the contrast with the snow but I think spaceship or buildings is my favourite because of that infiltration aspect. I could model and pose them like they're sneaking through a spaceship or an enemy base.

 

What are the 4 circle things at the bottom of the ZM brass etch?

[Slips]

Looks like vents. Vents for what? I 'unno thats up to you. But they could let you add some smoke / vapor effects to the bases models (using cotton buds and such).

[Fire Golem]

That could look cool actually if I could pull it off. My one issue with them is they're a little 2 dimensional, and it's like £11.20 for 12 bases, which seems a lot. But I'm not sure which ones from element games I'd use instead.

[Daemon2027]

Flock and Goblin Green :)

 

I did a sort of dusty earth on my RG test, didnt need any fancy bases which saves money. Although i did use weathering powders.

[Fire Golem]

Haha ;)

 

I wanna take the effort with the bases though, something I've not done before and I wanna try it this time.

 

Just realised as well they only make those Zone Mortalis bases for 25mm :/

 

And I've also just realised my list has Drop Pods and a Javelin speeder which don't really make sense in a spaceship...

[chaplain mortis]

Meh....the drop pods count as boarding torpedoes and plenty of room in a spaceship for a landspeeder to zip about in.. (as long as it stays in a cargo hold haha)

 

Bet your itching to get your hands on that resin now!

 

I think black cat bases are woth a look and lots of recommendations for dragon forge bases

[Slips]

Kharybdis Assault Claw ( $$$$$$$ x_x) would solve that problem :P

[Fire Golem]

I really am itching for my models! I guess they could be in a spaceship still... I do really like that idea still, and it fits the stealth side of the RG... I'll check out those base manufacturers :)

 

I love the Kharybdis model! It's awesome. Pricey though as you say!

[Fire Golem]

How about these ones, obviously painted less colourfully:

http://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures/bases-for-miniatures/round-bases-for-miniatures/tech/tech-bases-round-25mm-5

 

I dunno whether to abandon the spaceship idea though incase I ever wanna add vehicles to my force.

[Slips]

Look ok enough.

 

Spaceship flooring is one of the more versatile because they can also represent the interior of a building / installation as well as a space faring vessel. Or even the streets of say a mechanicum forgeworld. With the general aesthetic of 30/40k veering towards the heavily industrialized, using bases like that  will probably match the most amount of terrain / tables your likely to play on.

That aside, you can feel free to break up the monotony by basing differently on a squad per squad basis.

[Fire Golem]

I guess it could still work for outside, so I could still include vehicles... If I did it squad by squad, how would I tie them together? Like could I do some on spaceship/buildings and some outside and still make that work?

 

It could be like an enemy base/installation on a snowy planet...

[Slips]

you tie them together with the marines paint job :) that being said, basing is less about the boards you'll be playing on and more where you envision your marines being. 

 

Obviously with the amount of imagination and variety out there for boards, you'll never be able to have a catch-all base that will accommodate them all. Unless you magnetize your marines to bases and switch them out on a game per game basis...but I don't think you or anyone here is at that level.

 

So, to that end; now you've settled on your Legion and General theme for them, where do you see them being deployed the most? Where will they excel at what you've envisioned for them in your head? In a desert? Snow Capped Mountains? Grass Planes? Military Installations, Habitated zones (rural vs urban), Sea Side (thing marines - not the space kind)? Magma Fields? Void Operations? options are near limitless in this regard and the only thing stopping you is your imagination.

 

So while ,yes, it is another level of complexity beyond just getting the marines painted and everything that entails; you can always come back to this at a later date and leave the bases bare until you've decided.

[Fire Golem]

Well I did really like the idea of them sneaking through a spaceship or enemy base but then I thought about vehicles and stuff. I still think that kinda thing (RG after all, sneaky is their thing) but maybe like an enemy installation in a mountain or something. I've always liked jungle scenery too but I dunno if I imagine RG in a jungle.

 

I could just leave them bare til I've decided though, good point.

 

I can't even decide on a bloody base theme now, I really am a nightmare -.-

[Slips]

Installation bases could also represent vehicle interiors if you wanted to.

[Fire Golem]

Yeah I guess they could do :)

[Fire Golem]

Okay so I've very slightly changed things up. I've decided my Raven Guard are going to be a Starship/Installation Infiltration and Boarding force. The general idea is that the more bloodthirsty XIX legion guys breach through, while the Deliverance borne RG manoeuvre and infiltrate around into key positions to disrupt the enemy. Part of the reason for this is, my future AL force are going to be a more general force (not getting distracted by them, not getting distracted by them...) and also I just think it sounds awesome :D

 

So with that in mind I've changed my list quite a bit, here's the new list for those interested;

 

* Legion Centurion (135pts)

Primus Medicae, Tartaros Terminator Armour, Ravens Talon

 

* Moritat-Prime Kaedes Nex (155pts)

 

 

* Legion Breacher Siege Squad (290pts)

10 men, Vexilla, 2x Volkite Charger, Artificer armour, Breaching Charge and Thunder Hammer on sarge

 

* Legion Tactical Squad (320pts)

20 men, Vexilla, extra CCW, Artificer armour and Power Weapon on sarge

 

* Legion Tactical Squad (320pts)

20 men, Vexilla, extra CCW, Artificer armour and Power Weapon on sarge

 

* Apothecarion Detachment (90pts)

2 Apothecaries

 

* Contemptor Dreadnought Talon (225pts)

2 Dreadnought Close Combat Weapons, 2 Plasma Blasters, Extra Armour

 

* Legion Terminator Squad (365pts)

10 men, Reaper Autocannon, Tartaros Armour, Ravens Talons on sarge

 

* Mor Deythan Strike Squad (275pts)

10 men, 10 Sniper Rifles

 

 

* Dark Fury Assault Squad (325pts)

10 men

 

2500 points.

 

 

Not much else to update, still waiting for my models to be dispatched.

[Daemon2027]

Sounds cool man. The only thing I will say is that, while Volkites are very cool, taking 2 probably won't do much. They work a lot better in large numbers, and standard bolters may be better. Or, as this is a ship breaching list, graviton guns.

[Fire Golem]

Okay thanks. I wasn't sure so I went with the Volkites cos they're the coolest but if I went with the Graviton I wouldn't have to buy any extra guns for them ;)

[Reyner]

Graviton guns do mean the Breachers have to stay still to fire them - you know just to throw a spanner in the works! But Breachers holding down part of an installation/space ship/giant vehicle/bar with gravitons make it very difficult for the enemy to remove them :P Haywire can make a mess of Spartan Tanks if you are lucky.