Lednera Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Hi guys got another question for you, in one on the Horus Heresy Novels I think it was the Space Wolves version of Prospero Burns they make a reference to a symbol of warding that looked like an eye and was supposed to protect against chaos. While it would have no in game effects I was wondering if it is possible to work the symbol into the heraldry of the great company and also if anyone has a sample of how the symbol looks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 The Eye of Aversion, it's a symbol to warn of danger or ward against the influences of chaos. It's described as four lines forming a diamond with a line bisecting the symbol down the middle to form a crude eye shape. It would look something like this: <I> and yes it's a perfectly valid symbol to paint onto armor, vehicles, weapons or structures of any sort. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3802311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I wonder if the diamond-shaped gems used on armour etc have any relation to this tradition. Either way, it sounds a lot like a gēr rune. Should fit in very well with other SW runic decoration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3802643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I wonder if the diamond-shaped gems used on armour etc have any relation to this tradition. Either way, it sounds a lot like a gēr rune. Should fit in very well with other SW runic decoration. true about the gems. Had not thought of that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3802709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lednera Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Thanks guys, that rune means "Good Harvest" I love the concept of it meaning a Good Harvest of Recruits and the return of a great vault of gene-seed to the space wolves. Nerrative ideas are developing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3802824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Unfortunately we have some mention of runes, what they mean and why they are used, but rarely a physical description or image of which runes are which. It would have been nice had the new Codex offered a rune alphabet or outline like the Ork Codex had for the Ork Glyphs but in the absence of such a thing just using Futhark or similar alphabets and creating your own specific meanings and contexts works pretty well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3802946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lednera Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Yeap, I havea modeling question in close relation to my original question. As I understand Lone Wolves who manage to avenge the pack can potentially be invited to the ranks of the Wolf Guard. That being said how would this work from a modeling perspective if said a Long Fang pack was left with two members and one was selected to become a wolf priest. It is said that they are as if they were dead to the pack and to the great company. Would the newly created Lone Wolf keep the pack markings he had as a Long Fang? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3802963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Yeap, I havea modeling question in close relation to my original question. As I understand Lone Wolves who manage to avenge the pack can potentially be invited to the ranks of the Wolf Guard. That being said how would this work from a modeling perspective if said a Long Fang pack was left with two members and one was selected to become a wolf priest. It is said that they are as if they were dead to the pack and to the great company. Would the newly created Lone Wolf keep the pack markings he had as a Long Fang? Lone Wolves can be depicted with their former pack markings, new markings unique to them as a Lone Wolf, or some combination of the two. I'd suggest looking at the chart of the Blackmane Great Company on page 27 of the new codex. At the bottom of the second column are three Lone Wolves shown with markings unique to them in white upon a grey field, potentially showing that they were formerly Long Fangs but also potentially entirely new markings to make them stand out as Lone Wolves. However it should be noted that diminished packs are no longer as permanent as they once were, the current battlefield needs of the chapter has forced many to adopt a system of continual reassignment, promotion and consolidation more common to Codex Chapters over the former practice of never reinforcing a battle-diminished pack. So a single Long Fang would probably now simply be assigned to another Long Fang pack, especially if he was the last left not because of battlefield losses but the reassignment of the last of his pack mates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3803036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lednera Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Good information, I think that would look good then. Yellow Field for Blood Claws, Red Field for Grey Hunters, Black Field for Wolf Guard, White Field for Long Fangs, and Grey Fields for Lone Wolfs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3803071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't care too much for the new idea of general reassignment.Thanks for info on the runes, very helpful. Does anyone know or have any pictures of similar markings being painted onto space wolves? Wondering how big the <I> could be painted. Got some neat ideas for painting it on some wooden shields but any inspiration would be great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3803207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lednera Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 I think the <I> symbol might be adopted as either the pack or great company symbol since the gene-stock was recovered from an ancient Space Wolves Strike Cruiser called Morkai's Vigil that was lost in the battle of Prospero. Since <I> is "Good Harvest" I will give it the context meaning that they are a Good Harvest of Gene-Seed and Recruits that were protected from Chaos until they were returned to Fenris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296365-question-runes-and-symbols-of-the-space-wolves/#findComment-3803220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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