Rurik the blessed Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I have this little issue ... i was reading the rule of Bone Shard "The bearer of the Bone Shard of Solor has a 3+ invulnerable save whilst within 12" of atleast one model with the Daemon special rule." and i remember the demonhost.. from inquisition codex sadly i found no reference as it is a daemon... but... somewhere i read a FAQ question refeering to "What is a daemon?.." the answer was everything with the name demon... blah blah.... I am wandering... with the next release of Inquisition codex... would demonhost become a daemon? it would be very good.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Q: What counts as a Daemon? (p21) A: Everything in the Chaos Daemons codex (except for Chaos Spawn), Daemon Princes, Possessed Chaos Space Marines, Obliterators, summoned greater Daemons, summoned lesser Daemons, any vehicle with the daemonic possesion upgrade, Daemonhosts, Mandrakes, Kheradruakh the Decapitator, the Avatar. You're right! The question is, does it only count as one per squad o.O, also does it even still count as a deamon as it's no longer in the FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Lol.. I can see a grandmaster joining a squad of henchmen now for funny shenanigans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Lol.. I can see a grandmaster joining a squad of henchmen now for funny shenanigans. No need to join, just keep the henchmen close enough... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Still a Daemon. While our FAQ is a Codex out of date, it's still the current FAQ on the BL Library. ;) Nice catch, hadn't considered sticking a GK IC with that relic in a unit of Daemonhosts! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik the blessed Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Still a Daemon. While our FAQ is a Codex out of date, it's still the current FAQ on the BL Library. Nice catch, hadn't considered sticking a GK IC with that relic in a unit of Daemonhosts! I insist... no need to join the henchmen... just keep them at 12" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah but T4 meatshields for your beatstick IC. Cheaper than our dudes! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Joining Daemonhosts? Have you no pride? What is this offensive bat:cusstery of which you speak?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I would say that FAQ is out of date, seeing as it references an obsolete codex. A daemon is probably any unit with the daemon special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Allie in some Khorne Dogs, and go full 2++. By any means necessary. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I would say that FAQ is out of date, seeing as it references an obsolete codex. A daemon is probably any unit with the daemon special rule. If it's out of date, and no longer valid, why is it up on the BL site with the rest of the valid FAQs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3803986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess you're defining valid as existing, even though all the page numbers for the ammendments and erratas no longer line up, and all but one question in the FAQ pertain to units no longer in the GK codex. And that question? it has to do with the nemesis force halberd, not the definition of a daemon. Not that it matters, because the description of the bone shard says that the bearer has a 3++ when within 12" of a model with the daemon USR, which the daemonhost does not have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yup, the relic says "Daemon special rule". Oh well. As for the FAQ, if it's not valid, why is it still up there with all the other Valid FAQs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It doesn't matter if it's valid or not. There is nothing useful in that FAQ that codex doesn't supersede (which is why it's invalid). As to why it's still up, I don't run the BL website, that's a question you should probably ask them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malus Trux Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Allie in some Khorne Dogs, and go full 2++. By any means necessary. SJ The thing with that is 13% of the time the bearer will do nothing but stare at it and ask "Why the is it following me? Come the Apocalypse after all. That and well Chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Avatar of khaine ally. Rangers manning comm station. 2 + cover save and a scary deamon for 3++. Take a soulglaive on bro champ libby with shard. If your lucky and can get sanctuary now you got a 10 man termy of 2+ 2++ with all re-rollable hits and wounds. Hammer time any one? Sure its expensive but just the expression on your opponent's face as he fires everything at this kill squad to barely scratch it after ya obliterate his vanguard is worth it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 There is nothing useful in that FAQ that codex doesn't supersede Apart from what's a Daemon, and the Inquisitorial stuff that you might want to consider for Codex: Inquisition, as that's yet to get its own FAQ (like what the UPS effects). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purifying Tempest Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Avatar of khaine ally. Rangers manning comm station. 2 + cover save and a scary deamon for 3++. Take a soulglaive on bro champ libby with shard. If your lucky and can get sanctuary now you got a 10 man termy of 2+ 2++ with all re-rollable hits and wounds. Hammer time any one? Sure its expensive but just the expression on your opponent's face as he fires everything at this kill squad to barely scratch it after ya obliterate his vanguard is worth it I was thinking of some eldar allies with avatar and some serpents. Plenty of games in 6th end where my grey knights couldn't tell that the giant molten guy was actually a demon. Intelligence is not a requirement to join our team, apparently. I just imagine the avatar sending a holo comm to a GK commander with his thumbs at his temples and index fingers up mocking at being all devil horns while pointing out the blood angels threatening eldar interests. They're a dying breed... gotta find any way to get those darned humans to fight each other, right? AND now you even get a 3++, see... That avatar is a really nice fellow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 GK and Eldar are knuckle-bump Bros, closer than Nerco-Bangels. Harley's backing a GK play is easier to swallow than the Space Vampires getting all Brosy with the Mechano-Mummies. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 There is nothing useful in that FAQ that codex doesn't supersede Apart from what's a Daemon, and the Inquisitorial stuff that you might want to consider for Codex: Inquisition, as that's yet to get its own FAQ (like what the UPS effects). The definition of a daemon isn't even in that FAQ, it's from older one (5th ed one I think) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Gah, did the 6th ed FAQ leave that (and UPS out)? Oh well. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It makes sense that they left it out. When 6th came out, it became easier to classify something as a daemon by looking and seeing if it had the USR. The plasma siphon FAQ is still there, but it just says to refer to the BRB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296449-demonhost-bone-shard-of-solor/#findComment-3804732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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