A new chapter and need some help

[KrimsonNekros]

I've started the rough concept of the chapter I'd liketo create, but could use some help figuring out the details of how it would work and function. Thoughts on how this looks, and where it could use improvement would be appreciated.

Chapter Name : Black Horizon

Homeworld: None.  Due to their status as Fallen, the Black Horizon has to keep on the move to avoid their Dark Angel brothers.

Geneseed: Fallen Angels, adopts others

Chapter Type: Loyalist Renegades.

Motto: Libera te tutemet ex Immaterium

 

Colors:  Traditonal, with a black right arm.  The core Fallen use the colors of the Dark Angels, painting their left arm back as a reminder of the sin that condemns them.  Marines adopted from outside the fallen are free to use either their original chapters colors, or to copy the colors of the core fallen.  The only requirement is that the right arm be painted black.

Purpose: The Black Horizon chapter is composed of marines seeking to repent and prove their loyalty to the Emperor even after excommunication. Primarily formed of Fallen Angels who were present on Caliban during the Horus Heresy, most of these marines realize they have no chance of merging with their former legion and instead seek to prove their devotion by dying in battle against the emperor's enemies. While they accept any excommunicated space marines into their order, other than those who have been corrupted by Chaos, preference is given to Fallen seeking to redeem themselves. They never let their number exceed the 1000 deictated by the laws of the Astartes, replenishing their ranks only as their brothers die in battle.

 

Recruitment: The Black Horizon seldom takes on any recruits who are not fully fledged Space Marines.  Though some of their surviving brethren from the Battle of Caliban during the Horus Heresy were only scouts, these numbers are small.  As a result of this, and their intense fear of corruption within the ranks, all new recuits, whether fully fledged Space Marines or not, are required to serve as scouts during their initial indunction into the ranks of the chapter.  During this time they are carefullly scrutinized and watched for signs of corruption.  Those who show signs, are immediately executed, and their bodies destroyed to prevent the retrieval of any geneseed.  They have no mercy in this regard, even to their own brethren.  Those who survive the ordeal are accepted into the order as full brothers, and have their power armor returned to them.

 

Combat: In combat they are a fearsome foe to reckon with.  Due to their suicidal desire to prove their loyalty to the Emperor, they will only withdraw under the most dire of circumstances.  The one exception to this is the forces of Chaos.  Against any demon horde or detachment of Chaos Space Marines, they will fight to the last man without mercy and will assault the enemies on sight.

[Grand Master Belial]

A very interesting take for this chapter. It also seems to be a home for the Black Shields of the Deathwatch that choose not to get involved with the Inquisition. There could be a couple of plot holes to address; namely, why there are no scouts/recruits and why there is no tribute of gene-seed. Even the Black Dragons have those two bases covered.

 

Apparently with so much bureaucracy and missing paperwork, it is easy to slide in a chapter that was not sanctioned with relative ease as the Dark Angels seems to have done it a few times. I can already see the drama of an excommunicated Dark Angel with no knowledge of the Fallen coming face to face with one as they join the ad-hoc chapter.

[KrimsonNekros]

A very interesting take for this chapter. It also seems to be a home for the Black Shields of the Deathwatch that choose not to get involved with the Inquisition. There could be a couple of plot holes to address; namely, why there are no scouts/recruits and why there is no tribute of gene-seed. Even the Black Dragons have those two bases covered.

 

Apparently with so much bureaucracy and missing paperwork, it is easy to slide in a chapter that was not sanctioned with relative ease as the Dark Angels seems to have done it a few times. I can already see the drama of an excommunicated Dark Angel with no knowledge of the Fallen coming face to face with one as they join the ad-hoc chapter.

 

 

Thanks for the encouragement.  Couple questions for clarification though so I can think about and add them. 

What are you referring to with the Tribute of Gene-seed?  They are mainly composed of Fallen Angels who are from the Dark Angels Legion, and Lion El'Jonson's gene-seed.  Is there something I'm missing there that i need to include?

 

Second what do you mean by scouts/recruits?  Sorry if these seem like really obvious points.  Still really new and learning the lore.

[Grand Master Belial]

The tribute of geneseed is a tithe that every chapter sends to the High Lords of Terra I think it is every one hundred years. This geneseed is used by the High Lords to check for mutation and also is used to create new chapters when a Founding is called out. As the renegades are made up from members of different geneseed (different Primarch) they do not have a uniform batch to create new marines or to send to the High Lords. If they instead remain a renegade group without the facade of a chapter, they would not care about the Hogh Lords and their tribute, but that means they will be hunted by the Imperium as they would be criminals.

 

Since they are made up of excommunicated members of a chapter, more often than not, they will be full marines that have power armor. Scouts are not yet full marines and are trying to earn that final right that would allow them to take their place amongst the full brethren. They would not be excommunicated as they are still being trained / indoctrinated. They would be under the constant scrutiny of the Chaplains and the Sergeant of the squad designated to lead them. Scouts that honk off the chapter are either killed or turned into a mindless servitor.

 

Does this help?

[KrimsonNekros]

Thanks for the info. I think I've got a good idea for how to include scouts and recruiting. The geneseed tribute would be a problem. The core Fallen would most likely want to send the tribute, but given that they are being actively hunted by their Dark Angel brothers doing so would prove difficult. The outlying Marines might also send in a tribute if there were enough, maybe as a company from a specific chapter?

[Messor]

I think one thing you'll want to focus on is how they keep their ranks pure. This chapter has an interesting concept, but sounds like a prime target for Alpha Legion, and similar operatives.

[KrimsonNekros]

Made a fwe updates to the original post on the chapter.

[Messor]

Freaking awesome. A bit of imperial guard paranoia/regime mixed with Space Marine brutality. I dig, sir, I dig.

[KrimsonNekros]

Freaking awesome. A bit of imperial guard paranoia/regime mixed with Space Marine brutality. I dig, sir, I dig.

 Thanks.  Things are slowly starting to come together, just having some dificulty trying to figure out how to get the tithe together.

[Grand Master Belial]

 

 

Freaking awesome. A bit of imperial guard paranoia/regime mixed with Space Marine brutality. I dig, sir, I dig.

Thanks. Things are slowly starting to come together, just having some dificulty trying to figure out how to get the tithe together.

In the grand scheme of the fluff, the tithe is a very minor concern and could be overlooked for a while. GW has official successors that have their own problems with logistics with Terra. The Consecrators being one.

 

A work around can be that they have fabricated their history to be a part of the 21st "Dark" Founding, like the Black Dragons. That founding was marked by the rumored dabbling and mixing of geneseed. The results were catastrophic and very few chapters remain from that time.

 

Your chapter has "falsely" tried to reverse the effects by trying to use pure geneseed from the parent legions in an effort to undo what has been done. This has led to marines of the chapter to end up with individual parentages in terms of primarchs.

 

As part of their falsified documents is a statement that tithes were not to be sent due to the unstability and the growing inconsistency of the geneseed.

 

As verification of a few millennia old document would be difficult if not impossible. Only the most dedicated and resourceful Administratum Scribe would be able to see through the ruse and Inquisitors do not seem to be that patient.

[KrimsonNekros]

Thanks Belial, that would actually give me a way for them to explain why it there hasn't been any tithe.  Am i correct in assuming that delivery has to be done by a member of the chapter?  If so i think I've got a way to work around it.

[Grand Master Belial]

I have read both through a courier from the chapter and the chapter being visited by some official to collect the tithe (usually because it was late). Most chapters hate to give the tithe as it means less for them to use in recruiting new brothers, but in the long run it means the chapter is protected and can continue in case of a catastrophic loss (Like the Crimson Fists). If they are a successor from the Third Founding on, then they know that they were created from the tithes that were sent from others and while they may not like it, they understand it.

[KrimsonNekros]

Great thanks!  Given the nature of their recruitment, giving the tithe probably wouldn't bother them any.  Odds are sending a courier would be the most logical choice.  Probably a Techmarine they've recruited from somewhere.  i would imagein something they'd be short of in The Fallen,  as such the chapter would be reliant on external sources.  Given a Tech's affliation with the Cult Mechanicus, they'd probalby also be safer traveling to Mars than one of The Fallen, or an excommunicated would be.

[Leonaides]

And yet, unreliable or unstable geneseed would most likely raise even more interest in the chapter and its tithe. The tithe is not to form a backup store of geneseed, its for the imperium to be able to check up on the chapters physical health.