Wolves unleashed detachment

[Dhrakken]

Hi guys,

i've a question for you (maybe it's a noob question):

 

can you have only a wolves unleashed detachment?

 

I ask you this because the cons seems very good (guaranteed T2 stormwolf), but i don't find where is stated your troops loose their objective secure ability.

 

Thank you in advance (i'm back to wh 40k after long time).

[Frater Cornelius]

There are something called a battleforged bonus. A bonus that you get when you adhere to a Force Organization Chart of any given Detachment.

There is a 'standard' detachment given in the rule book. It is called Combined Arms Detachment and requires you to take 1 HQ and 2 Troops and the other optional selections. The bonus you get is that troops have objective secured and you may reroll your Warlord Trait.

Then there are other FOC, like the Wolves Unleashed Detachment, which requires 2 HQ 2 Troops and the optional selections up top. There you get your Outflanking and Reserve bonus and may reroll the Codex Warlord Traits.

And finally, our supplement FOC, Company of the Great Wolf Detachment, which requires 1 HQ 2 Elite and the optional ones on top and it gives you +1WS on Wolf Guard and TWC, reroll supplement warlord trait (and as an indirect bonus from using the supplement, although not strictly a FOC bonus, your WG and TWC sarges get preferred enemy in challenges and must speak out or accept challenges themselves).

 

So, to answer your question, you trade in Objective Secured for Outflanking and reserve shenanigans because you play a different FOC. Hope this clarifies it a bit.

[Dhrakken]

Thank you Immersturm, yes it is more clear now.

 

So can i choose to go with Company of the Great Wolf Detachment (1 HQ 2 Elite) and create a list based only on this Detachment(Optional: 3 HQ,3 Troops,6 Elites,3 Fast Attack,3 Heavy Support,1 Fortification,1 Lords of War)?

 

If yes, then i'll have all the cons of this detachment, but i'll loose objective secured on my troops.

 

If i want my troops have objective secured i can combine Company of the Great Wolf Detachment (1 HQ 2 Elite) with the Combined Arms Detachment (1 HQ and 2).

 

Is it right?

[Frater Cornelius]

Yes, you can have an unlimited amount of detachments in your army (unless tournament organizer or friends tell you not to do it :P). So yeah, you have have a CotGW Detachment to get your powerful HQ and Elites and have a CAD where you put your troops and give them OS.

[Dhrakken]

Perfect thank you again Immersturm.

[Z00Z]

Immersturm, can i expand on the question a little if I may?

 

Can you take either CAD or wolves unleashed and a CoF formation only without needing to take the CoF detachment?

 

Cheers in advance

[Frater Cornelius]

Formations are special detachments with specific requirement and more specific special rules, but they are separate detachments nonetheless. Which means that neither CAD nor WUD rules apply to the formation, nor do formation rules apply to any other detachment.

But they can be taken, no matter what other detachments you have because the rule book does not give a limit on how many detachments one can use. The origin of said formation is also irrelevant, so go ahead and play WUD + COF formations.

[MalachiOfRuss]

Thank you Immersturm, yes it is more clear now.

 

So can i choose to go with Company of the Great Wolf Detachment (1 HQ 2 Elite) and create a list based only on this Detachment(Optional: 3 HQ,3 Troops,6 Elites,3 Fast Attack,3 Heavy Support,1 Fortification,1 Lords of War)?

 

If yes, then i'll have all the cons of this detachment, but i'll loose objective secured on my troops.

 

If i want my troops have objective secured i can combine Company of the Great Wolf Detachment (1 HQ 2 Elite) with the Combined Arms Detachment (1 HQ and 2).

 

Is it right?

 

Immersturm is correct this is legal.  Additionally, I would advice you make very clear to yourself and your opponent which units below to which detachment and thus which ones have the rules such as Objective Secured.  This can and should make a distinct difference to how you play the units and how your opponent plays against you, so be sure to be completely open and honest about it.  This also gives you the opportunity to do cool hobby things like give the detachments different colour schemes or markings to make them distinctive.

[Valerian]

Dhrakken,

 

Please look here for a detailed explanation:  Creating a Battleforged Army.  We've got a whole thread pinned to the top of the forum, that is dedicated to explaining this.

 

V

[Dhrakken]

Thank you guys!

 

Valerian: excuse me i didn't see it, i'm sorry!

[Vampyrer0me0]

I thought troops always have objective secured, but with the BRB detachment all your units had it.

[Valerian]

I thought troops always have objective secured, but with the BRB detachment all your units had it.

Nope.