Demus Ragnok Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 So I am beginning the planning stage of a Crusade era army. This is what I have thus far. Force composed of units from four different legions. Group one are reknown for being siege/ LoW hunting specialists. Group two are void warfare/ air superiority. Group three are heavy infantry with a flare for close combat. Group four are adept at diplomacy, and logistics, but make use of indirect/ subtle forms of war. As i begin to make purchases to build this force I want units that fit the above ideas but will leave me with an effective army on the table when complete. So I seek your suggestions for units that fit within my little plan. Also keep in mind that this is a pre heresy force and the specialization doesnt correspond to the legions known for those things. Thanks all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 1) Imperial Fists, Iron Warriors for seige, I'd wager Salamanders and Iron Hands for LoW hunting (this could mean monstrous and gargantuan creatures since this is GC era) 2) Imperial Fists for void, Raven Guard, Blood Angels, Dark Angels and maybe White Scars for Air Superiority 3)Iron Hands, Iron Warriors, Imperial Fists (Templar & siege specialization), Salamanders are those that spring to mind. 4)Ultramarines, Alpha Legion, maybe Word Bearers, Luna Wolves (SoH), Raven Guard for me anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-eye Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If loyalist, you can go the route of a "siege of Terra" army with : 1) Imperial Fists 2) IF or White Scars 3) Blood Angels 4) White scars Yes it's only 3 Legions but you have your theme. If traitor you've got a lot more possibilities, so more freedom in the choices of Legion and modelling (for example IW, SoH, DG and AL) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Any Legion can fill any role, but if you want units that work on the game table you may want to look at the ones that generally are considered to fit those roles. I am working on an Expeditionary fleet with 3 Legions Iron Hands for large scale warfare Night Lords for void/zone Mortalis battles and heavy terror assaults Alpha Legion for being secretive I also imagine the fleet has an attached chaplain from the Word Bearers. Also contained are Mechanicum and Imperial Army units. Diplomacy is conducted by Imperial Agents, the Space Marines are Gods of War, their diplomacy is conducted at the end of bolter and blade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I imagine some would be more diplomatic though, the Ultramarines were envisaged by Guilleman as being diplomats and leaders after the Great Crusade was over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah, imperial fists could do it to, probably would be very fair. Imperial Heralds/Word Bearers were probably meant by the Emps to fill that role, Thousand Sons could also fit the bill. But I feel the OP wants a legion who have two faces, one looks upon the other side a friends, the other face seeking to destroy them from within. So Alpha Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I think about this kinda stuff a lot, so I like these threads... Group 1 - Siege Specialists/Big Game Hunters My suggestions would be Imperial Fists or Iron Warriors, or perhaps even Death Guard (if only for the fancy chem/rad weapons - take a Siege Breaker and Medusas for Phosphex!). Of those, I'd think Iron Warriors would be the best fit, with Siege Terminators and Proto-Havocs. They also have access to Mechanicum units via the Cortex Controller. Group 2 - Void Warfare/Air Superiority Obvious ones would be Raven Guard with their fancy Storm Eagle and numerous jump squads, or probably Blood Angels, who are also likely to be flyer/jump heavy. As an interesting alternative, maybe Sons of Horus? Their fleet was pretty large, and you could take a load of Kharybdis and Dreadclaw Drop Pods as flyers. Group 3 - Heavy Infantry Iron Hands, World Eaters or maybe a Justaerin force under Abaddon, depending on your taste. Possibly also Salamanders with Vulkan. Group 4 - Special Forces Dark Angels or Alpha Legion. Alpha Legion have the advantage of existing rules, but you can bet the I Legion will have some underhanded tricks when their rules are released. Raven Guard may also work here, but they weren't especially diplomatic. Otherwise possibly post-Monarchia Word Bearers? If you went with, for example - (1) - Iron Warriors (2) - Sons of Horus (3) - Iron Hands (4) - Dark Angels You'd have a pretty cool mix. The only issue with this list is potentially that Iron Hands and Dark Angels are both black, but the models should be different enough (Bionics & Robes/Knightly things) that they'd still both be interesting to paint. The Sons of Horus and Iron Hands elements would synergise well together, both being hard-hitting and hard-wearing respectively, while the Dark Angels could lend their (probably) lots-o'-plasma and (possibly) experimental/test-bed weaponry to the firepower of the Iron Warriors. I hope that helps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I think Death Guard would work well for the heavy infantry too, I mean both their special squads are terminator squads. 1. Iron Warriors I feel would work best but you could go with Imperial Fists if you wanted loyalists/colour. 2. Raven Guard, White Scars, Imperial Fists... 3. Death Guard, Iron Hands, Salamanders, although really any legion could field lots of heavy infantry, even the Raven Guard had the Deliverers, who were their Terminator company. 4. Alpha Legion are the most obvious and most fitting I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Whilst I appreciate all the replies I feel that I failed to effectivly convey the question I intended to. Also this may belong more in the tactica sub forum. Anyway, the four legions I will be painting are already locked in in my head. What I would like some help with is what legion units fit the traits from the first post but also mesh to form an effective force. See my first thought is to buy everything that looks cool, but at same time there needs to be some sort of "cost effectieness" to this project. So yeah maybe this should be in tactica. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If you have already decided the four Legions that you'll be painting, let us know what they are so that we can make more specific suggestions. When you say 'legion units' do you mean the basic units from the Legion list or specific legion units (ie. Templar, Immortals, and Palatine Blades?) :) Anyway, my list would be (Legion wise)... No. 1:Imperial Fists/Iron Warriors No. 2:Imperial Fists/Blood Angels No. 3:Death Guard/Sons of Horus No. 4:Emperor's Children I can't believe no one has mentioned the III Legion for No. 4 (in regards to the diplomacy aspect at least)! They were the Emperor's chosen aquilifers, his standard bearers and Palatine officials. If the Emperor wanted to make a good impression on a newly rediscovered world he sent the III Legion to escort the Imperial delegates and officials. They represented everything good about the Legiones Astartes. I may be biased in my opinion but I feel that when people look at the Emperor's Children they only see the decadent and corrupt aspects of the Legion. Before their fall they were blessed and honoured by the Emperor above all others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah the EC can do diplomacy as long as it's while they are getting their nails done :p Demurs Ragnok, which legions are you going to do? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 For the first leg of this project Im looking to build generic legion units that way if I change my mind half way in I can strip and repaint. But i was thinking about 1 Deathguard 2 Emperors children / raven guard 3 salamaders 4 Ultras Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296578-seeking-ideas-for-multi-legion-task-force/#findComment-3806554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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