casb1965 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Starting a GK / Inquistion / Astra Militarum army led by Brother Captain Tholan Wyvor and Inquisitor Ximénes de Cisneros and looking for that final piece to finish it off. At the moment i have: GK Librarian GK Grand Master GK Techmarine 10 GK Terminators 20 GK Power Amour (Purifiers / Interceptors) Inq. Coteaz Inq. Power Armour Psykers galore Guardsmen galore (for henchmen) Valkyrie Chimera 2 Leman Russ 1 Hydra Aegis Defence Line At the moment I'm torn between an imperial Knight or a Stormraven and more Terminators, any advice would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 How lore based you want the force to be? Very lore then termies and raven. screw lore, then the knight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3806410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casb1965 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Sticking to Lore would be nice, being able to counter Imperial Knights at my club would also be nice. A combination of both whilst sticking to Lore would be perfect. At the moment my idea to counter the IK is multiple small henchmen squads tying it up in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3806424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 How are IK not Lore? You do remember Titan has an actual gorge world orbiting it as a satellite, and that there is an entire Titan Legion composed of Psi-Titans, in Lore? It's almost to easy to include a fluffy AdMech, Imperial, or Freeblade aligned IK into pretty much any army at the moment, and GK / AM / Inq have the least to stretch to fit one or more in. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3806604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casb1965 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Using an IK is fine, what I really want to know is which is more beneficial an IK or a StormRaven and some more Termies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3806918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 How are IK not Lore? You do remember Titan has an actual gorge world orbiting it as a satellite, and that there is an entire Titan Legion composed of Psi-Titans, in Lore? It's almost to easy to include a fluffy AdMech, Imperial, or Freeblade aligned IK into pretty much any army at the moment, and GK / AM / Inq have the least to stretch to fit one or more in. SJ Yes they are lore, but in lore they are very rare, usually around just knight worlds and the occasional forgeworld. Psi titans I have not heard of before nor rememver gk running with any titan for that matter. Id love to read it if you can site it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3806985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Using an IK is fine, what I really want to know is which is more beneficial an IK or a StormRaven and some more Termies. Really, depends what your fighting. More air support you cant go wrong but if your shop typically brings lord of wars, then you want the knight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3806989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 How are IK not Lore? You do remember Titan has an actual gorge world orbiting it as a satellite, and that there is an entire Titan Legion composed of Psi-Titans, in Lore? It's almost to easy to include a fluffy AdMech, Imperial, or Freeblade aligned IK into pretty much any army at the moment, and GK / AM / Inq have the least to stretch to fit one or more in. SJ Yes they are lore, but in lore they are very rare, usually around just knight worlds and the occasional forgeworld. Psi titans I have not heard of before nor rememver gk running with any titan for that matter. Id love to read it if you can site itPsi-Titans are a patern of Warlord Titan that mounts a Titan sized Psycannon for one arm, a Titan Close Combat Weapon for the other, and a Sanctum Sanctorium on its back that replaces the Carspace weapon points with Psychic defenses and improved targeting. These Titsns are only found in the Psi-Titan Corp, a branch of the Titan College attached to the AdMech Psi Division, and based in an unknown location in the Sol System. The Grey Knight fortress monestary on Titan is supported by their very own Forgeworld in the form of Phobos, the former moon of Mars, which sports it's own Forgeworld-esque industrial complex, and is hidden under the Titan moon's shielding. While never mentioned, a Forgeworld dedicated to supporting and entire Chapter of Psykers with Psyker specific equipment could also house the AdMech Psi Division and the Psi-Titan Legion. Also not mentioned, yet not unreasonable to assume, is that if Phobos can produce DreadKnights, they surely can produce and support a Knight House. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ok psi titan just sounds badass. I knew they had deimos for the forgeworld just never knew of psititans. Do they actually have a model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casb1965 Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Using an IK is fine, what I really want to know is which is more beneficial an IK or a StormRaven and some more Termies. Really, depends what your fighting. More air support you cant go wrong but if your shop typically brings lord of wars, then you want the knight Lords of War come out very rarely at the club, flyers and IK are more commonplace. I'm leaning towards the StormRaven purely for it's AA value and I think I can manage to tie up an IK with multiple small Henchmen units from my Inquisition allies. I am right in thinking that an IK can only fight 1 unit in melee at a time aren't I ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes but with a d weapon, if he roles a 6 its d6+6 wounds no saves of any kind. And can stomp so have many squads ready Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
casb1965 Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes but with a d weapon, if he roles a 6 its d6+6 wounds no saves of any kind. And can stomp so have many squads ready That was the intention, plenty of 3 man Henchmen units just to tie him up for a round or two and stop him shooting us to death. With the limits to shooting Overwatch only once and only fighting one unit in CC at a time it becomes easy, assuming we can get there, to tie up an IK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 But aren't D weapons multiple wound rolls per model? I'm sure if you roll a 3 for wounds on a single wound model, the excess are lost, plus D weapons auto wound anyway. So it's pointless rolling how many wounds are lost on single wound models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Model yes which transfers to unit just like any other woubd. But you get invuls against all but 6. 6 is just straight up you are dead. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Just be more blood for the blood god Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Ok psi titan just sounds badass. I knew they had deimos for the forgeworld just never knew of psititans. Do they actually have a model? There were Epic rules for them back in the day, but nothing official for Apoc or 40k play. However, if using current Apoc LoW rules, a Reaver Titan with a church on its back (Sanctum), a Laser Blaster (Titan "Psycannon"), and a TCCW is pretty much spot on for a Psi-Titan. Void Shields and repairs can be "Psychic Fortitude", the Sanctun can be one randomly rolled Carapace weapon selected like a psychic power and played as a normal Carapace weapon for the rest of the game, etc. just a slightly different spin on an existing unit in the game. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296590-strike-force-wyvor/#findComment-3807547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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