The Red Thirst Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (Wrong Legion 'Cousin' ;) )The only hypocrisy here is the XVIIth legion first establishing the 'Truth' of the Emperors divinity then broke their own faith from receiving a slap on the wrist, disgraced themselves by consorting with powers even they in their ignorant wisdom didn't understand and begun a cycle of never ending war that will see the doom of our species. We were so close, so close to conquering the galaxy for Mankind and ensuring the bright future of humanity would last until the end of time, all that is gone now, the only solace is that we destroy those that ended our species one chance of eternal peace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The imperial truth, the name by itself I find simply hilarious. Likely the biggest lie your false emperor ever told us which, despite his brilliance, probably would have prevented most of this conflict from ever taking place. Lorgar and his sons just exposed the real truth behind the lies. (Aye representing a Night Lord :P glad you picked up on that) Hahaha we brought humanity back cowering in fear and if I remember correctly many of the worlds we did this to rebelled during our "heresy". Lorgar was slow, I admit, but the worlds they conquered were more loyal than any others in their albeit false devotion to the false emperor. As for our censure, you'd have to catch us first. We'd see the wolves' shaggy hides coming long before they would reach us and a fair fight is something none of us enjoy. Our father is a hypocrite and fool much like your emperor, whom many of us ignore anyway. If you really believe the crusade would've ended then you're as delusional as the Word Bearers were. There are limitless amounts of xenos out there and other..."things" that would never allow humanity to reign supreme. It was always going to end this way, might as well join the side in which you're free to do what you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The only hypocrisy here is the XVIIth legion first establishing the 'Truth' of the Emperors divinity then broke their own faith from receiving a slap on the wrist, disgraced themselves by consorting with powers even they in their ignorant wisdom didn't understand and begun a cycle of never ending war that will see the doom of our species. We were so close, so close to conquering the galaxy for Mankind and ensuring the bright future of humanity would last until the end of time, all that is gone now, the only solace is that we destroy those that ended our species one chance of eternal peace. "I shall not have such a defeatist attitude from a battle brother loyal to the throne! The traitors will be expunged, driven back into the un-reality their vile masters creep forth from if needed! While a son of Guilliman still draws breath all their rearing will be in vain! And I know the XIIIth Legion will not stand alone!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Such arrogance, it shames me to think that the VIIIth Legion can even call themselves Astartes, men so twisted and corrupted that they don't even harken to their own father, you disgust me Night Lord. The Word Bearers proved nothing but their own ignorance and lust for power beyond their worth. Their are no Gods, only the corrupting power of the Warp that if allowed will consume our race until we are nothing but ashes and dust. If their is one thing the Word Bearers proved is that blind men will wander in dark places. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 "As a member of the Emperors Children, I only have one piece of advice for the greater Imperium and especially the Iron Hands." *Puts on his helmet* "Don't lose your head." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 We are what we are. We don't have a mutant in the guise of an angel, to abase ourselves before. Tell me, if your father was insane, murderous and bi-polar would you still listen to anything he has to say? Actually thinking that over, the Dark Angels might still listen despite their father being somewhat similar to our own. Well just goes to show how weird those dress wearers are. Gods or no gods, the Word Bearers can do what they want. The fact that they exposed the false emperor's lies during their search for "power" is just icing on the cake. The warp needs us to maintain it's current state, thus we would not be consumed, but neither can I say what would happen. I'll probably be dead by then, either from your bolters or my brothers' blades in my back, preferably the latter. Exactly! Might as well take off the false emperor's blindfold and not wander the way of the XVIIth legion, join Horus after all, it's not like some of your brothers haven't already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I will never bow to a traitor, such a thing is anathema to the honour of my LegionI heard a similar quip from one of the Thousand Sons regarding my Fathers "deviation" and ill reply as I did before, If the Emperor himself overlooked such an obvious change in his son, then we can all accept the Emperors judgment as final.I still fail to see these so called 'Lies" that the Emperor spoke of? The one thing the traitor "Legions" have in common is that they believe that the Emperor "Lied" to them. Did he choose protect us from the corrupting power of the Warp, yes, as any father protects his children from things they cannot understand.The corruption of the Traitor Legions is proof enough for me that the Emperor was right to hide the powers Warp from us, look at the destruction that has spread because of it. You and all your misbegotten kind have condemned our species to a slow and ignoble death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 We have merely freed ourselves from the shackles of narrow thought brother! Is the destruction we cause any different from the kind we've delivered to countless Xenos species? if we merely chose to express our beliefs peacefully would we spared? No, NO! It doesn't matter what the true nature of Chaos is and you could hardly care one way or another, we merely chose to strike you before you could strike us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 You struck down your own brothers and spit on your oaths. You alone were given permission to wear the Emperor's personal heraldry and you go on to betray everything that he strove for. Yes, he lied about the warp, but he did it to protect humanity. Look at what you and allies have become. You have become monsters, not even worthy of being recognized as Astartes. You freed yourselves from order for the sake of striving for that which is unattainable. You claim you seek perfection and yet you fail to see that term as subjective. Your Legion's constant drive for perfection drove you mad because you were never happy with what you had. Had the Crusade ended the galaxy been brought under the Imperium's rule, you still would not be happy and would have followed the mad butcher Angron into the nothingness beyond the edge of the galaxy and been lost forever. Perhaps that would have been a mercy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/Empschildrenlogo.gif I do not merely spit my oaths, I desecrate them, I destroy them, I despoil them so thoroughly that one could hardly say they ever existed. Guess what? I would do it again, and again, and again, and again until the stars die because I can see it clearly now: The Imperium has crippled mankind, no one here truly lives anymore, they merely exist in a state of stagnation and oppression, they may as well be dead. We know what we seek is unobtainable, we all do, but what matters is the journey not the goal. We will never be perfect, but we strive further every day! you can call us monsters, abominations, aberrations, and it is but music to my ears. We are no longer Astartes, we are something stronger, something better, we have taken the step that the accursed false Emperor never could! Through the Prince of Chaos we have unlocked our potential to be something more then nothing, for nothing is what the Imperium is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Were it not for the Imperium, they would already be dead by the hands of the Xenos. And for being so much stronger than Astartes, you certainly died all the same on the slaughter fields of Istvaan V and at your so called "Perfect Fortress". Your corruption has simply changed you. For everything you are gaining from your Prince, you are losing that which makes you strong as Astartes. You have become as cohesive as the World Eaters who care for nothing but the kill. You speak of oppression and yet you have simply traded masters. Instead of serving the one who created you, you betrayed him in your vanity and are now the slave of a being who uses you as less than pawns. You are but sheep to the slaughter and yet you do not see it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/Empschildrenlogo.gif Yet we know other civilizations, have survived just fine without him! He was merely a blinder, a restraint to keep us all in the dark. With honeyed words and ignorance he kept us bound from who we could possibly be. What use is conquering the galaxy if we have nothing to live for? how can we apperciate the stars we take if we cannot even apperciate ourselves? As I said before, we cannot truly be perfect, but we can approach it...failure too is a new sensation and next time we will only come back stronger and more powerful, every day distances us that much more from the rest of our failed brothers in the loyalist legions. Truly we were the most exemplar of all Space Marines, because we were the first to realize we could be something more, and the first to realize what a failure our grandsire was. If I am a slave I do not know it, I do not feel it, I do not see it, and if one finds happiness in slavery then it is no slavery at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/mv8830/Night%20Lords%20II/Nostraman_zpsf4be09e4.png The Night Lord spoke. I must disagree with my brother of the flawed Children. If a slave would still choose to do his appointed task, he is nonetheless a slave. I have chosen my new masters, but I am still a slave. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/Empschildrenlogo.gif *Shrugs* But what if it is every appointed task? what if the task itself was the reward? At a point, the word 'slave' becomes loose indeed, and eventually it becomes so loose as to become pointless. True, some of the blind Emperors followers do their tasks dutifully, finding the work itself it's own reward, but others still are crushed under the bulk of the Imperium. Never do they aspire to the stars or find fulfillment in their blighted existence, they can never hope to become anything more or see anything beyond the limited framework of our reality. Perhaps freedom is not the right word then, we simply live where they do not, they exist in a state of nothingness with nowhere to run and no hope of happiness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 And yet you call the people of the Imperium slaves even if they do not know it. At least the Night Lord can admit that he is a slave in his own choosing. I will admit that the Imperium has enslaved us. And yet, this slavery is infinitely better than that which I am accustomed to having been a slave laborer for the simple fact that one of my family stood up to the rulers of Kiavahr. The Emperor freed us from that slavery and delivered us into a slavery of our own choosing. All slavery eats at my soul and yet what would you have me do? Break my oaths? That is unacceptable and would only lead to more death and destruction with no true results coming from it. No, you simply seek blood shed and that enslaves all to the simple fear of your existence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/mv8830/Night%20Lords%20II/Nostraman_zpsf4be09e4.png Behold, cousins! See what happens when a proud and honourable legion descends into madness! He faces the son of Fulgrim. The drugs of your Apothecaries have addled your mind. It is the same even then. Pointlessness? Everything, everything is pointless, for we of the Corrupted know that Chaos shall one day consume all the galaxy.The Night Lords know this all too well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Brother you might admit to enslavement but I will never. If chaos chooses to bestow gifts then so be it. Despite his arrogance, I agree with the child of Fulgrim. You who serve the corpse god do as you are instructed, like a dog or slave if you will. You have not lived until you shrug off the shackles of the imperium. Call it what you will, enslavement or damnation. My close brothers and I call it freedom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/Empschildrenlogo.gif A slavery of your choosing, not mine. We simply have not had the option of a better master until now, so like the tyrant before you can free yourself from the tyrant after to trade up to a better tyrant still! Why limit yourself? If we continued the Great Crusade we would of caused the same death and destruction to someone else, there's hardly more of it, and while I hold no love of the Xenos there's little debate we'd be killing someone else instead of each other...arguably for little purpose. I'd rather we sort out our own empire before we go any further, and that starts with casting down the False Emperor. He turns to face the son of Curze in turn. Drugs addled my mind? Well probably. Yet as I just said, it is about the journey and not the end, THAT is not pointless, for the least we can do with ourselves is live some kind of life. If the slave never speaks ill of his master, never thinks of rebelling, and indeed if his masters goals actively line up with his own, then why call him a slave? For what reason? it means nothing, arguably like most words, and then bringing it up hardly changes a thing. As for madness? Well i'm not sure if you've noticed, but everyone is mad here, it largely depends on point of view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 "As a member of the Emperors Children, I only have one piece of advice for the greater Imperium and especially the Iron Hands." *Puts on his helmet* "Don't lose your head." "Ah yes, the same old quip." The gaze of his single, cyclopean visor -- probably bionic; no, definitely, bionic -- turned to rest on the latest arrival from the hated Third. "Better to lose one's head then one's soul, I suppose." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Hahahaha Iron Hands, for a legion obsessed with the machine you lot are quite dramatic. Personally I'd rather keep my head, after all souls are simply the currency to chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/Empschildrenlogo.gif We've both lost our souls, one to the Prince of Chaos, one to the Emperor, I far more enjoy the former's particular brand of damnation. The latter just won't get you ahead in life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/mv8830/Night%20Lords%20II/Nostraman_zpsf4be09e4.png The Terminator turns to his brother. Ah, brother. I pity your ignorance. We are enslaved to the mad whims of dark gods. He taps the ornate lion's head carved upon his pauldron. You are my brother, and as such, you understand what the Lion of the Atramentar means. It means I was enslaved to the whims of the Prince of Crows, and in turn, he was enslaved to the whims of our primarch. Our primarch was himself enslaved, but he broke free of his shackles, and was executed for his trangressions, as was the Prince himself, or so they claim. We are not made to be free. That is why I live in my fetters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 You would ask me to trade up to a master who would corrupt everything that I am. Humans are far from perfect as you well know, but I am thankful for that which I was given and corrupting it in the name of senseless slaughter is not my way. Neither form of damnation will get you ahead in life for you will stagnate though you do not see it. Any who would claim to be free in this time is simply blinded by their blind loyalty or hatred. I am enslaved to the will of my command structure whether it be my Shadow Captain or Lord Corax himself. But as you chose to break your oaths, I have chosen to keep mine. I have no quarrel with your kind beyond duty and revenge. You chose dishonor before death but I will not call you cowards for you took a leap into the unknown. Were it not for the betrayal on Istvaan V and the subsequent attack on that which I swore to defend, I would have no reason to fight you unless I was ordered to do so. Your choice was your own, it is simply a shame that our masters are so pitted against each other. The Mor Deythan turns to the Night Lords and lets out a slow sigh Even you, my twisted cousins. For you I feel only sympathy for we are more alike than we would ever admit. Were it not for pure chance could our roles have been reversed. I see in you what we could have become had we fallen and it strengthens my belief in holding my oaths. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/56/Empschildrenlogo.gif Corrupt everything we are? what is corruption truly? are what we are now, so called 'perversions' of the natural order just as much? No, what people perceive as corruption is merely a fear of advancement. I have yet to meet a day that is stagnant, every moment is a new sensation, a new experience, and even as I become jaded to the lesser my eyes are opened to what is greater and each second I push the envelope and expand the limited bounds of what we call reality. Many followers of the Emperor are destroyed by Chaos when they cannot embrace it, because our minds were simply not meant to handle the Eldritch powers of the warp, primitive defense mechanisms kick in...chief amongst these is oblivion...yet when embraced we can now understand, and if you understood you would know Slaanesh is about more then bloodshed, my mind races a million miles a minute as it opens up to new artforms, new music, new techniques, to embrace Slaanesh is to embrace the best and worst of humanity to become something new. As for my dishonor I wear it proudly, the Aquila will be on my chest even as I pound down Terra's doors, the phrase 'For Emperor!' will come to be feared across the Imperium. To your kind I too have no quarrel, I simply find it sad that you would choose oblivion over that enlightenment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The Night Lords face one another. Careful brother, we have both committed fratricide I am sure and just because we are both Atramentar does not mean I am not averse to doing it again. Sevatar is the only one who could have led our legion, our father was a figurehead for the voices in his head. If he truly broke free of his shackles, why allow himself to die? He was pathetic and unworthy. You may be enslaved, but I call no one master. He turns to the Raven Guard legionary. Pity? We do not need pity for we are free. Free to choose our own path, unlike you who upheld your "oaths". Did we make any oaths? I do not remember, for oaths are just another manacle to bind you to your corpse god. You can still become like us or something else if you desire. That's the beauty of it, just look at all nine legions. Is any one of them the same? No, because we gained our freedom when we turned against your emperor. True, many of us traded that for another form of enslavement but it becomes enslavement of your choosing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296946-legion-smack-talk-thread/page/18/#findComment-3826302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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