Shinn Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 As I get closer to being set with what I need for a small force I had a thought. My friend and I were discussing how different militaries work together...which put the idea of different uniforms in one army in my head. So my question is...would people get angry if say my platoons were dive in different schemes from each other and also having other AM forces such as Catachan and steel legion in the same list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoqqu Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Thats all good, fluff has mqny examples of forces being beaten up badly and then merged in order to create a new functional force from the left overs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinn Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 That's what I figured...just thought I'd ask first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yep - Regimental merging, otherwise known as having your cake and eating it ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Not to mention larger engagements often involving different Regiments working in concert, like the Tallarn and Elysians on Taros. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Get mad? NO! That's a great idea to give character to the army. It will help distinguish the platoons from each other while looking good on the table, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I would only have a problem if you did not post images of your army. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I created my own Regiment the 45th Imperial on the same principal. Decimated regiments would be folded up into the Imperial Regiments with their allocation of resources also sent to them. The Regiment then took the survivors and divided them by companies that fit their style of fighting. The sizes of which were never fixed and were allowed to balloon out of control. I did this with the older regiments over the newer. Red Company - Jungle Fighters Green Company - Traditional Fighters (Cadians) Blue Company - Formal Fighters (Mordians and probably Vostroyan if I had any), these also acted as the command squads for the Regiment. Gold Company - Desert Fighters (Tallarn) White Company - Winter Warriors (Valhallans) Black Company - Night Fighters (The old beret style Storm Troopers, Steel Legion and the Tanith Scout Troopers) Their helmets/headgear would be painted in the different company colors. Any Storm Troopers of the more modern designs (Kasirkin and the Scions) were attached to a separate formation the 4055th Storm Trooper Detachment or Rainmakers and all vehicles were apart of the 74th Mechanicum Reclamation Detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinn Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 I'll post up pics once I get my move complete. =p thanks guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3815942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinn Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Sorry to put a question here but I didn't want to make another topic. How useful is the hydra/wyvern? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I hear only good things about the Wyvern although I have not yet got around to building mine yet. Soon, soon.... If you build them to be interchangeable, which is what I am going to do, then you can try both out :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Indeed, it's easy enough to have the model be both :) The Wyvern is a cheap unit that will punish light infantry and put enough wounds on other infantry to make it hurt, a very nice artillery tank (best in a squadron of two). The Hydra is quite good, but not as useful as in the previous codex. If you're expecting to be up against skimmers and/or flyers then it may be worth investing in, but if you don't then it will struggle to find much use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I love my Wyvern, though it's feeling a little lonely so I might buy it a buddy. I once proxied them in a squadron of 3, and sweet mother of Jesus the amount of Wounds that drops is utterly insane! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I have 2 wyvern. They are indeed pretty awesome, especially for the point cost. In my first game with I wiped out an entire squad of necrons turn one from behind a building and my opponent spent the rest of the match trying to destroy them. It was amusing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 That's the Wyvern for you, just keeps on giving :P Even more so when your opponent goes out of his way to revenge himself - should your opponent eventually get them you can inform him how many points the two tanks cost. You can then tell how good he is at maths by the time it takes for his expression to change :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Oh yes, I've lured people to Drop Pod Meltas onto them by having them in the open while my valuable tanks are comfortably bubble-wrapped! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The Hydra is OK ... it lacks Interceptor so even if that rule does get changed to work like it did in 6th the Hydra will still not be able to fire effectively at ground targets. I would look at a defense line with a quad-gun or two if you need anti-air. That way you could at least get first shot at those drop pods and teleporting terminators. The Wyvern is the OP-brokeness star of the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 While not quite that bad it is why you should use it while you can, it will undoubtedly get a points increase next codex at the least :P Probably just as well the Wyvern is so good for the points otherwise the new kit would have hardly sold. The Hydra needs something to make it more attractive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 To be fair to the Wyvern, it's worthless against vehicles, so it's not really 'OP brokeness' in the way the Adamantium Lance or Jetstar can be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinn Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Updated with list below Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3816811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinn Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Ok..here's what I'm up to (Pics once i'm set up.) ! CCS (Cadian,Unbuilt) PCS(Officer with BP/CCW,Vox,Medic,Standard) about 50ish Cadian Guardsmen 5 man Scion team (Volly,Melta) 10 man Karskin (2 melta) LR Punisher (Commander/Pask) 2 LR With options to be all the variants Wyvern/Hydra Sentinel (Auto cannon) HellHound 2 Chimeras Taurox Baneblade/Variant SHadowsword/variants. 2 Valkyrie (1 converted to Vendetta using magnents) Fairly decent start? >.> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3818310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Here is some imput form me if you want it. welcome to the Guard world and enjoy it. It becomes an addiction very quickly....... Ok..here's what I'm up to (Pics once i'm set up.) ! CCS (Cadian,Unbuilt) Good start, Box has loads of kit in it to spread the love across the rest of your infantry too. PCS(Officer with BP/CCW,Vox,Medic,Standard) With these ugrades i would consider this as a CCS as PCS (as i run them) are best naked, a single HW, or Flamer death with maximum flamer templates. about 50ish Cadian Guardsmen Are these unassembled? if so you can use the left over upgrade parts from the CCS to get some more specialists in your games. If made with superglue you can ometimes carefully snap arms/heads apart to ammend. A good solid base of infantry though. 5 man Scion team (Volly,Melta) I am only now dabbling into the world of scions but these should work well. Maybe use them as part of a scion platoon even Scion Command? 10 man Karskin (2 melta) Would work well as a 10 man or even a suicide melta 5 and hotshot 5 LR Punisher (Commander/Pask) Good choice and i would personally give it HS and Bolters all round for more shots. 2 LR With options to be all the variants Good tanks all of them, Just ensure magnetisation to keep all options open. wyvern/Hydra Wyvern is my choice personally. For AA i rely on AC as if no other AC at least they can shoot ground tartgets at full BS. Sentinel (Auto cannon) I use Armoured sentinels with Plasma Cannons, But these are a good choice for either type of sentinels. HellHound Good and i still like to know where the template goes as opposed to the slightly cheaper eradicator that potentially scatters. 2 Chimeras Good in numbers or as a order bunker for a ccs. Taurox Not used personally but i can see vets using cover to get close having some luck with these potentially? Baneblade/Variant SHadowsword/variants. Never used a super heavy so no imput i am afraid. 2 Valkyrie (1 converted to Vendetta using magnents) Fairly decent start? >.> Good air support, I use valks with ML and MRP but ensure that you use the transport ability as that is included in the cost and one of the best ways to get across a table. A Air cav assault following Scions in could be deadly. In fact i will work on a list around that myself now.......... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3818535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinn Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Help is always helpful to a recruit such as myself. All the guardsmen are built though it wouldn't be to hard to pop the arms off the ones in the strip bath. I plan to get maybe 2 boxes of Catachans to spice up the army as well since I have a few Steel Legion troops. Also have Yarrick,the new Commisar,Techpriest and ADL. It is an addiction...it all started when me and a buddy split a lot cause he wanted the Tau so I got the SM,SoB,and maybe a 500 pt list worth of IG...They were originally only going to be an ally for my Dark Angels....:p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297074-opinions-needed/#findComment-3818546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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