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[greatcrusade08]

very lovely :)

[Jolemai]

 

[Jolemai]

 

[Jolemai]

[Blindhamster]

We can hope.

 

that said, I already have 15 terminators lol

Edited October 13 by Blindhamster

[Jolemai]

Of course, it may well just be an upgrade kit given how we're nought more than a topping this edition.

[Karhedron]

I am keeping my expectations low. 

[Mostwanted]

Valrak has said about this possibly being linked to a rumoured new Space Hulk. However, I can't see it being related due to the wargear load out of the models in the previous Space Hulk box. Most of the Terminators were the ranged weapon type with only two having Assault load outs (one twin lightning claws and one Thunder hammer and Storm Shield). So if this BA Terminator Assault Squad box is disappearing to make way for the Terminators in a new Space Hulk, there would have to be a drastic change in the wargear composition in the new Space Hulk to allow for a full Terminator Assault Squad. Also, haven't the last few releases of Space Hulk been limited? If this is the same, it would mean you wouldn't then be able to get the models after it's sold out anyway.

 

Unfortunately I think this Blood Angel Terminator Assault Squad box is disappearing purely because of the upcoming bigger scale generic Terminator Assault Squad.

 

I hope there is a new Space Hulk, and if there is, I think it will be more about ranged Terminators just like all previous editions.

[Rhavien]

On 10/13/2025 at 9:27 PM, Blindhamster said:

We can hope.

 

that said, I already have 15 terminators lol

Just 15? Where is your dedication brother! What if your 1st company needs to be fully deployed in TDA? 

[Blindhamster]

8 minutes ago, Rhavien said:

Just 15? Where is your dedication brother! What if your 1st company needs to be fully deployed in TDA? 

Its funny, I've been in the hobby for just shy 30 years... in all that time, I've owned very few terminators, I always hated the proportions... 

I had 1 set of 5 the classic 2 plastics (with the rotatable torsos)

I had 1 set of  5 regular terminators after they got their last update

I had 1 set of 5 cataphracti and 1 set of 5 tartaros for HH

I had 1 set of the BA assault terminators

I had Space hulk 

I don't have any of the above anymore having sold armies a few times. 

 

So yeah, just the 15 for now, I'll probably get 1-2 sets of the new assault ones, and if we DO get a new space hulk, I'll probably get that too (especially as my eldest can use the genestealers in his army)

[Rhavien]

Well, I'm a sucker for terminators since the beginning. Actually it was my very first GW mail-order after I got the 2nd edition starter. A five man Terminator Squad and a Rhino and I still have them after all those years. I painted them with Revell oil based paints in a thick coat and if you look from below you could see plenty of silver because I was such a noob that I only cared for the areas you'd see from above while playing. Now I'm short above 50 fellas of all flavours plus various captains, chaplains, scriptors and whatnot. I really love me some Terminators. Maybe I have a problem...

[Jolemai]

Funnily enough, I was the same with Jump RAS  It's only been in the last year or two I finally have some in my backlog...

[Blindhamster]

I’ve always been a standard marine enjoyer, I’ve always had a lot of tacticals or more recently intercessors

 

to me nothing beats a bog standard bolter marine of some kind. Probably why I also always loved tycho to be honest!

[SM1981]

Hey Lads,

 

Blast from the past here... Been absent from the hobby for a while but getting back in (life etc).

 

Off topic but is there a thread where contributors can post and discuss army lists?

 

I'd be keen for input from some Blood Angels players better versed in 10th...

Edited October 17 by SM1981
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[Jolemai]

10 hours ago, SM1981 said:

Hey Lads,

 

Blast from the past here... Been absent from the hobby for a while but getting back in (life etc).

 

Off topic but is there a thread where contributors can post and discuss army lists?

 

I'd be keen for input from some Blood Angels players better versed in 10th...

 

The army list fora were merged into their parent fora - so just create a new thread 

[Jolemai]

 

[Blindhamster]

thoughts on the new victrix guard rules compared to sanguinary guard?

 

sanguinary guard pros:

- movement 12

- 4++ save

- +1 strength & AP with swords or +1 Strength and lance with spears

- access to a couple of melta pistols

- -1 to be hit in melee

 

victrix guard pros:

- +1 wound

- +1 attack on melee

- +1 to hit, AP and damage in ranged

- +12" ranged threat

- their -1 to wound is against all attacks, not just melee unlike sanguinary guard

- two unique special characters, 1 gives entire unit more or less our best detachment ability for one turn, the other has +1 attack, twin linked, precision

- gets a surge move like the DC dread

- built in OC2 (not a huge one, we get OC2 from the banner, does still mean if we lose the banner model we lose OC2)

 

thoughts?

[DemonGSides]

The power creep begins.

[Blindhamster]

12 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

The power creep begins.

looking at it seriously, I actually think the only notable thing may be the wound. 

SG hit harder with swords or spears, notably so in our detachment in fact. 

SG are also more survivable due to both -1 to hit and -1 to wound in melee, they're also more likely to be the ones charging thanks to the better movement, and whilst our guns arent as good, our inferno pistols are and if we somehow go to a second round of combat, we can shoot - they cant. 

the 4++ is fairly meaningless vs victrix attacks, but the lack of said save for victrix themselves is not - our swords mean victrix are saving on 5s.

 

and there isnt much difference between 3 wounds and 4 wounds when everything is throwing damage 2 around. 

 

Honestly I think in a melee brawl, we still win out, even if on paper victrix have more going on. 

Edited October 24 by Blindhamster

[Blindhamster]

does make me really sad for the loss of sanguinary ancient who was basically a combination of both the champion and ancient for victrix. I'd really like to see them return tbh. Doubtful though it may be

[DemonGSides]

The math being thrown around really blows any SG math out of the water.  The full Victrix Brick with Aggressor Calgar+bodyguards+Cato has like 60+ attacks.  The SG can't even sneeze at that, even withe Dante, it comes out to 32 attacks.

 

1:1 they might be a lot closer, but they have a lot of movement for a non Jump Pack troop and can all slam into a transport, which our boys have a lot more trouble doing so.

 

It's definitely some power creep.  The combo possibilities are the real concern, more so than trying to run a naked squad; I don't see anyone really doing that with the VG, tho the SG do have some more play there, comparatively.

[Karhedron]

Whilst a big Victrix brick does get an impressive number of attacks, it also has more models with only half the movement and no FLY making making them harder both to manoeuvre and to bring into combat with the enemy. Delivering a charge with SG is usually as simple as finding a staging point with cover and within 18" of the enemy or an Objective you know the enemy will want to take.

 

Also there comes a point where a unit will destroy anything it touches and any extra attacks simply become overkill except for that once in a blue moon where you pull of a charge in a Primarch or similar unit where they actually need all that killing power. And even then, it might be better to have 2 smaller units for better flexibility.

 

Still, I guess the points are where we find out if it is really power creep.

[Blindhamster]

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

The SG can't even sneeze at that, even withe Dante, it comes out to 32 attacks.

on the charge (or even when charged via savage echoes) wouldnt it be 39 in LAG? 5 per SG and 9 for Dante? Still less than 60 sure, but considering the smaller model count, thats no surprise. And the quality of our attacks is notably better (for us its effectively 39 power fist attacks with better AP) and we're also going to get hit less and wounded less in return and even things like calgar etc have their AP effectively limited to -2, where we would not

[DemonGSides]

4 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

Whilst a big Victrix brick does get an impressive number of attacks, it also has more models with only half the movement and no FLY making making them harder both to manoeuvre and to bring into combat with the enemy. Delivering a charge with SG is usually as simple as finding a staging point with cover and within 18" of the enemy or an Objective you know the enemy will want to take.

 

Also there comes a point where a unit will destroy anything it touches and any extra attacks simply become overkill except for that once in a blue moon where you pull of a charge in a Primarch or similar unit where they actually need all that killing power. And even then, it might be better to have 2 smaller units for better flexibility.

 

Still, I guess the points are where we find out if it is really power creep.

 

There's more movement shenanigans going on with the Victrix and they fit into transports easier.  I don't think it's as simple as "Movement number bigger" when it comes to this.

 

The footprint of this block is big enough that wrapping multiple units into a single charge is actually laughably easy.  It'll also be really good at hemming in an enemy transport, and counter charging them is a dicey prospect due to the surge move.  It's a gnarly brick with minimum 6 more wounds than the SG.

 

Points will always be the decider.  I expect them to be laughably low at first.

 

 

[DemonGSides]

1 minute ago, Blindhamster said:

on the charge (or even when charged via savage echoes) wouldnt it be 39 in LAG? 5 per SG and 9 for Dante? Still less than 60 sure, but considering the smaller model count, thats no surprise. And the quality of our attacks is notably better (for us its effectively 39 power fist attacks with better AP) and we're also going to get hit less and wounded less in return and even things like calgar etc have their AP effectively limited to -2, where we would not

 

I'm not really interested in stacking things in Favor of the SG just to get them comparable, I'm looking at raw numbers, especially when "effectively powerfists" means you have to run a specific detatchment.  These Victrix fit anywhere and do their thing without all the "Well I gotta do this specific thing first".  That's more flexible than the SG by definition.