LutherMax Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 There is a specific sect of Red-Helmed Ultra's in 30k who are a bit naughty (...or something). Not Traitor, but they disregard orders purely to exact revenge on traitors or something. Though I could be 110% wrong there! Ah yes I think you're right – I remember hearing that. I think the 40k red helms have something to do with that, but obviously it's no longer a negative thing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Their red helms are an honor to a censored guy. But the red/white helms are the only helmet distinction, and it is to honor specific people. The Blood Angels use them as a unit distinction, the ultras do not. The ultras have specific shoulder symbols to designate, where as the BA's base it purely off of helmet. I think it will be a mistake both for modeling and lore if they make helmet colors post reform. Edited June 22, 2016 by Arkangilos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 One of the main things that led me to creating a successor was that I didn't want yellow headed assault marines.... Tyriks 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) One of the main things that led me to creating a successor was that I didn't want yellow headed assault marines.... Hum....about this, i think it may depend from one chapter to another. Flesh Tearers use Codex marking, so no Yellow helmets, same for the Blood Drinkers. And personally, form my Knights of Blood Assault Marines, their helmets are of the same Grey (or will be white) as their Power Armour (Devastator will have Black Helmets, Tactical have Red, and Veterans will be White or Gold depending the Assault Squad helmets). I applied the same reasonement to the Squad marking. (Yellow became Red for the Winged and Lightning ones for exemple). ---------------------------------------------------------- Edit : I also add, a minor change exemple of my Knights of Blood. In order to stick to the 5th BA codex Model photo and the Reflection in Blood quickread description, i moved from Mechanicum Grey/Administratum Grey to Eshin Grey/Dawnstone grey. (I just took the liberty to remove the Grey Parts on the Backpack to make it full Red. This way, it also look like the Flesh Tearers paint scheme, since Backpack/Helmet/Shoulder pads are a different colors from the rest of the Power Armour.) Edited June 22, 2016 by Frater Antodeniel Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 There is a specific sect of Red-Helmed Ultra's in 30k who are a bit naughty (...or something). Not Traitor, but they disregard orders purely to exact revenge on traitors or something. Though I could be 110% wrong there! Its because of Aeonid Thiel, one of the true awesome Ultras. He basically started doing theoretical planning about fighting other Astartes. He then went to Calth, after the radiation stuff, and started building practical methods for doing so. He had the red helm because the Ultras all thought it was a bad idea. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aeonid_Thiel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Played a 1,500 game against Crimson Fists this evening. 20-9 for Sanguinius! Sans Mercy, Damon Nightman, Charlo and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Starting these guys. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/tballiv/Mobile%20Uploads/F72551A8-C0CD-47C1-8958-4972A3A73953_zpszrailwrq.jpg They will be the bodyguard of my Master of the Fleet (the Centurion from FW) Jønke, BAjim, LutherMax and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Nice work, Luther! Other than a clear and resounding victory, how did it go? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Nice work, Luther! Other than a clear and resounding victory, how did it go? To start with, and up until mid game - pretty badly! It was diagonal deployment and he did a good job of penning me in with a wall of Devastators, snipers and his Predator. My two Razorbacks didn't make it past turn 2, my Vindicator didn't get a single shot off thanks to crew shaken results and then being stripped of hull points, and the Sicaran didn't last much longer either. Then Dante failed his reserve roll. And his re-roll. But, my tactical squads made the most of having to disembark in completely the wrong place by mopping up his podded-in Sternguard and taking out his melta-speeder with melta bombs. The Death Company broke free thanks to the mobility of their jump packs and carved up his scouts, and the Sanguinary Guard & Priest made short work of his Techmarine warlord. I also managed to pop his Dreadnought with a lascannon before one of the Razorbacks got toasted and that was his only real CQC threat. Then Dante came in and between him and the Guard wiped out his Devastators before consolidating with the last two Guardsmen onto his Emperor's Will objective turn 5. Meanwhile across the board my last remaining tactical marine narrowly escaped being flamed by the other speeder to secure my own EW objective. Had it gone to turn 6 he may have got at least one of the objectives back, but I rolled a 2 *grin* Charlo, CaptainHelion and Arkaniss 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Incredible. Just incredible. Magnificent. Absolutely magnificent. You should feel proud! I, for one, do just by association. LutherMax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sounds like a perfect BA Victory. Weathered the storm then exact bloody vengeance. LutherMax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sounds like a satisfying win Luther! Good to hear that it's not just me who takes a battering before being able to gain a win in the final turns :P The cost of a melee focused army I guess! LutherMax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sounds like an awesome game. EDC LutherMax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sounds like a satisfying win Luther! Good to hear that it's not just me who takes a battering before being able to gain a win in the final turns The cost of a melee focused army I guess! The cost, but also the joy ;) Arkaniss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Speaking about games I know this could be asked in a thread all of its own, but I'm specifically asking for generalized purposes, is there a "standardized" points in Europe right now? I know on this side of the pond (or at least in my surrounding area) 1850 is what most people play. I've seen several of the bigger tournaments being played at 1500-1650. And I've heard in recent years the London crowd still usually stays around 1750. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sounds like a satisfying win Luther! Good to hear that it's not just me who takes a battering before being able to gain a win in the final turns The cost of a melee focused army I guess! The cost, but also the joy That is true! My opponents hide units in transports and hold others in Reserve but they know that it matters not in the end. It may take a few turns but I'll get to those units and carve them up eventually I don't play tournaments Dont-Be-Haten but my gaming group does play at 1750. Not sure if that's a European standard though, it's just a nice middle ground between 1500 (you can't get all the toys you want in) and 2000 (too many toys) in relation to average game time Dont-Be-Haten 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1500-1850 seems to be the norm. Any higher and it get's a bit too killy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4426997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) 1500-1850 seems to be the norm. Any higher and it get's a bit too killy. So you felt our 43k per side game was too killy? Edited June 23, 2016 by Jolemai Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 1500-1850 seems to be the norm. Any higher and it get's a bit too killy. So you felt our 43k per side game was too killy? Too much death? HERESY! You should never flinch from His work! LutherMax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just putting together my 2nd Edition lascannon Devastator for my battle on the weekend. Still need three hands to make them fit... Charlo and CaptainHelion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I really like 2000 - 2200 but I also like Campaign stylize games where you write a 2000-2500 point lists and mix and match it throughout. I also enjoy the 1000-1500 point games more than I do 1750-1850, but I enjoy 2000-2200 more than that. I know weird. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1500-1850 seems to be the norm. Any higher and it get's a bit too killy. So you felt our 43k per side game was too killy? That's different! But a Warlord is certainly Killy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 1850 is norm in Germany. Sometimes 1650 to speed things up. But i enjoy also 1500 Games. I like the 1850-2000 Point List´s the most cause you can bring so much units in it that need to get dust of. Next Saturday i will play after a long period an pure BA list. Not sure if with 30 DC in the Strikeforce Mortalis or with the Vetrans of the Sanguine Wing. Edited June 24, 2016 by Riot Earp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Ok it seems as he did not like to play with and against Forgeworld or Formations. So i´ll just field my 30 DC in an baal strike force. Charlo and CaptainHelion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Ah yes, because the one extra attack from the SFM formation is so much more powerful than +1I. People can be odd sometimes, but ah well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/114/#findComment-4427939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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