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[Arkaniss]

Yeah I don't miss that at all! 15pts was just too much. I have fond memories of Deep Striking in and charging with my VV in 5th. Didn't always work of course but when it did it was spectacular and a hell of a lot of fun :D

 

I believe Heroic Intervention is now no longer having the penalty for disordered charges? I'm not sure it's been a while since I fielded my Vanguard.

[Charlo]

Our think ours is just a crappy reroll on intercepting a challenge...

[Arkaniss]

Huh. That does sound a little lackluster. I'll have to hook out my codex and have a re-read, not unpacked it since my last game.

[RedemptionNL]

Ours is no penalties for disordered charges, the new version in codex space marines also grants re-rolling charge distances.

[Charlo]

Ours is no penalties for disordered charges, the new version in codex space marines also grants re-rolling charge distances.

 

That's the one.

[Arkangilos]

How often does disordered charge happen?

[Blindhamster]

I used them a lot back in 5th Ed.

[LutherMax]

How often does disordered charge happen?

It happens when you charge through / into / out of terrain doesn't it? Something I always try to avoid but not always possible.

 

Or am I thinking of something else?

[sebs_evo7]

Isn't it a multi charge?

[Xenith]

 

How often does disordered charge happen?

It happens when you charge through / into / out of terrain doesn't it? Something I always try to avoid but not always possible.

 

 

Isn't it a multi charge?

 

Yes

 

I used them a lot back in 5th Ed.

 

Multi charges existed in 5th, but not disordered charges.

 

A disordered charge is where you charge multiple units at once, but gain no charging bonuses such as Red Thirst, Furious charge, or rage (or +1 A for charging).

 

Death co etc can still do this vs weak units like Tau (if hey survive the overwatch), but in 5th it was a bit ganky as you could charge one unit, then have a single model from the unit charge another enemy unit in order to do minimal damage to it, and keep them in the fight.

[Blindhamster]

 

 

 

How often does disordered charge happen?

It happens when you charge through / into / out of terrain doesn't it? Something I always try to avoid but not always possible.

Isn't it a multi charge?

Yes

I used them a lot back in 5th Ed.

Multi charges existed in 5th, but not disordered charges.

 

A disordered charge is where you charge multiple units at once, but gain no charging bonuses such as Red Thirst, Furious charge, or rage (or +1 A for charging).

 

Death co etc can still do this vs weak units like Tau (if hey survive the overwatch), but in 5th it was a bit ganky as you could charge one unit, then have a single model from the unit charge another enemy unit in order to do minimal damage to it, and keep them in the fight.

Clearly I meant I charged multiple units at once...

[Indefragable]

In theory [keyword], you could use Angel's Fury Spearhead to Deepstrike 10x VV into the middle of the enemy and then multi-charge half the enemy's army. Tie them up through their turn while the rest of your guys do work (avoiding overwatch). Of 10x VV with 10x Melta bombs and multi-charge 10x vehicles from Deep Strike....

 

In theory....

[Warsmith Uveron]

 

Death co etc can still do this vs weak units like Tau (if hey survive the overwatch), but in 5th it was a bit ganky as you could charge one unit, then have a single model from the unit charge another enemy unit in order to do minimal damage to it, and keep them in the fight.

 

 

Having spent the day theroyhammering a BA list... I really want a Dirge Caster from my Chaos Codex in my BA list! 

[evildrcheese]

1800pts game tonight.

 

Thinking a something along the lined of:

 

BSF with Chappy, DC, Scouts, Cassor and a couple of Contemptors, maybe a Baal Pred.

 

Paired with a CAD, Libby dread, 5 Tacs with Plas in las/plas razorback, cheap bolter scouts. Also want to squeeze in 2 MM bikes and hopefully both my Tri-Las preds but obviously points dependant.

 

I basically want to spam av13 and ap2...and trying to utilise stuff painted during the ETL.

 

I'll come up with the final list this eve and give details tomorrow.

 

EDC

[Arkangilos]

I lost a sanguinary guard arm that goes with the double headed axe and one of my death masks :( if it weren't for that they'd be done :( :(

[evildrcheese]

So my game from Thurs. I took the following:

 

BSF:

Chappy, jp, VV

 

Contemptor, fist, kheres

Contemptor, fist, kheres

DC, (7), x2 fist

 

Cassor

Scouts, bp/ccw

 

CAD

Libby dread, lvl 2

 

Tac squad (5), plas, combi-plas, las/plas razor

Tac squad (5), plas

 

Attack bike w/ MM x2

 

Tri-Las Pred

Tri-Las Pred

 

So fairly heavy on the av13, and quite alot of ap2. I rolled night fighting and -1 reserves to my opponent as my WL traits.

 

Libby dread took Sanguine powers, getting the lance, fear and the primaris .

 

He had a SM list, quite a lot of infantry. 3 tacs, 5 man assault squad, 5 man dev squad (2plas can, 2 ML), LR with Th/SS termies, SR, shooty dread, Libby with burning blade.

 

Neither list was optimised, but on paper I think I had the advantage, t'was a enjoyable game.

 

High Lights: Contemptors were just awesome all around.

 

Enjoyed the tri-Las press

 

Low lights: Cassor immobilised by ML before he got to combat :(

 

Libby dread immobilised trying to get to an objective.

 

MM bikes whiffed against the LR and were promptly turned into past by the TH/SS termies.

 

Chappy was killed in a challenge by a PF sgt.

 

I did some poor placement and both my pf dc died before they reached combat

 

DC whiffed in combat and eventually lost to a tac squad :(

 

Overall a win for me. :)

 

EDC

[Charlo]

Immobilization really just plain annoys me.

 

Hell the vehicle damage chart annoys me.

 

Why?

 

Because Tau & Eldar "Walkers" (Wraiths/ Big Suits) just keep going losing wounds, but we take one unlucky roll and our things are dead and gone :'(

 

Otherwise sounds like you had a good game!

[sebs_evo7]

Dreads will get wounds/toughness stats eventually.

So I've started painting a redeemer, a crusader, mephy, a new cap and some more tacticals. Now im looking at buying a sanguiniary guard box to build dante. I think i have a problem

[Charlo]

We can only hope.

 

I mean, some god damned crates did :P

[Arkangilos]

Honestly, I hope that dreads (or any vehicle) doesn't. I actually hope that the tau and eldar walkers just start falling in line with the regular vehicles.

[RedemptionNL]

Got my lightbox back, here's some decent pictures of the Lemartes I finished for the ETL:

 

http://i.imgur.com/HHlqnqI.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/dDeLVhP.jpg

[sockwithaticket]

Dreads will get wounds/toughness stats eventually.

So I've started painting a redeemer, a crusader, mephy, a new cap and some more tacticals. Now im looking at buying a sanguiniary guard box to build dante. I think i have a problem

You could always just cherry pick the bits you want from a bits site/ebay store if you're worried about the amount of stuff that's accruing.

[sebs_evo7]

That was my first point of call but all our bitz sites down under are out of most sang guard bits

Has anyone got a good recipe for a gold that isn't as bright as the retributiors?

[Xenith]

Apply retributor gold base, wash all over with 50/50 agrax and lahmian, apply shade of seraphim sepia to recesses 

Edited August 21, 2016 by Xenith

[Chaplain Gunzhard]

That was my first point of call but all our bitz sites down under are out of most sang guard bits

Has anyone got a good recipe for a gold that isn't as bright as the retributiors?

 

I did a huge gold (different brand) comparison experiment a few years entirely in preparation of painting my Sanguinary Guard. It's here if you're interested: http://atticwars40k.blogspot.com/2011/10/great-gold-rush-quest-for-best-gold.html

 

The new-ish GW Retributor Gold base (with the white cap), as Xenith mentioned is actually quite good and has nice coverage. It's very similar to Vallejo Model Colour Brass - which is my goto base-coat for gold!

 

My old recipe was too convoluted when I went back to it ...now I just use GW washes as they are excellent.

--Base coat: VMC brass (or GW Retributor Gold base)

--washes: all gold parts biel-tan green wash (any green wash ok), wash/glaze riekland fleshshade on non-light areas, then finally wash some black (nuln oil) into just the crevasses and creases.

--1st highlight: VMC gold (GW has nothing like this great color)

--final highlight: VMC gold mixed with VMC silver... I do like 3:1 so as not to spoil the effect and make it look like dirty silver.

 

The VMC metallics thin fairly well with just water even.

Edited August 21, 2016 by Chaplain Gunzhard