Arkaniss Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Yeah I don't miss that at all! 15pts was just too much. I have fond memories of Deep Striking in and charging with my VV in 5th. Didn't always work of course but when it did it was spectacular and a hell of a lot of fun :D I believe Heroic Intervention is now no longer having the penalty for disordered charges? I'm not sure it's been a while since I fielded my Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Our think ours is just a crappy reroll on intercepting a challenge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Huh. That does sound a little lackluster. I'll have to hook out my codex and have a re-read, not unpacked it since my last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ours is no penalties for disordered charges, the new version in codex space marines also grants re-rolling charge distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ours is no penalties for disordered charges, the new version in codex space marines also grants re-rolling charge distances. That's the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 How often does disordered charge happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I used them a lot back in 5th Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 How often does disordered charge happen? It happens when you charge through / into / out of terrain doesn't it? Something I always try to avoid but not always possible. Or am I thinking of something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Isn't it a multi charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 How often does disordered charge happen? It happens when you charge through / into / out of terrain doesn't it? Something I always try to avoid but not always possible. Isn't it a multi charge? Yes I used them a lot back in 5th Ed. Multi charges existed in 5th, but not disordered charges. A disordered charge is where you charge multiple units at once, but gain no charging bonuses such as Red Thirst, Furious charge, or rage (or +1 A for charging). Death co etc can still do this vs weak units like Tau (if hey survive the overwatch), but in 5th it was a bit ganky as you could charge one unit, then have a single model from the unit charge another enemy unit in order to do minimal damage to it, and keep them in the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 How often does disordered charge happen?It happens when you charge through / into / out of terrain doesn't it? Something I always try to avoid but not always possible. Isn't it a multi charge? Yes I used them a lot back in 5th Ed. Multi charges existed in 5th, but not disordered charges. A disordered charge is where you charge multiple units at once, but gain no charging bonuses such as Red Thirst, Furious charge, or rage (or +1 A for charging). Death co etc can still do this vs weak units like Tau (if hey survive the overwatch), but in 5th it was a bit ganky as you could charge one unit, then have a single model from the unit charge another enemy unit in order to do minimal damage to it, and keep them in the fight. Clearly I meant I charged multiple units at once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 In theory [keyword], you could use Angel's Fury Spearhead to Deepstrike 10x VV into the middle of the enemy and then multi-charge half the enemy's army. Tie them up through their turn while the rest of your guys do work (avoiding overwatch). Of 10x VV with 10x Melta bombs and multi-charge 10x vehicles from Deep Strike.... In theory.... Warsmith Uveron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Uveron Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Death co etc can still do this vs weak units like Tau (if hey survive the overwatch), but in 5th it was a bit ganky as you could charge one unit, then have a single model from the unit charge another enemy unit in order to do minimal damage to it, and keep them in the fight. Having spent the day theroyhammering a BA list... I really want a Dirge Caster from my Chaos Codex in my BA list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1800pts game tonight. Thinking a something along the lined of: BSF with Chappy, DC, Scouts, Cassor and a couple of Contemptors, maybe a Baal Pred. Paired with a CAD, Libby dread, 5 Tacs with Plas in las/plas razorback, cheap bolter scouts. Also want to squeeze in 2 MM bikes and hopefully both my Tri-Las preds but obviously points dependant. I basically want to spam av13 and ap2...and trying to utilise stuff painted during the ETL. I'll come up with the final list this eve and give details tomorrow. EDC Jønke and Chaplain Gunzhard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I lost a sanguinary guard arm that goes with the double headed axe and one of my death masks :( if it weren't for that they'd be done :( :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 So my game from Thurs. I took the following: BSF: Chappy, jp, VV Contemptor, fist, kheres Contemptor, fist, kheres DC, (7), x2 fist Cassor Scouts, bp/ccw CAD Libby dread, lvl 2 Tac squad (5), plas, combi-plas, las/plas razor Tac squad (5), plas Attack bike w/ MM x2 Tri-Las Pred Tri-Las Pred So fairly heavy on the av13, and quite alot of ap2. I rolled night fighting and -1 reserves to my opponent as my WL traits. Libby dread took Sanguine powers, getting the lance, fear and the primaris . He had a SM list, quite a lot of infantry. 3 tacs, 5 man assault squad, 5 man dev squad (2plas can, 2 ML), LR with Th/SS termies, SR, shooty dread, Libby with burning blade. Neither list was optimised, but on paper I think I had the advantage, t'was a enjoyable game. High Lights: Contemptors were just awesome all around. Enjoyed the tri-Las press Low lights: Cassor immobilised by ML before he got to combat :( Libby dread immobilised trying to get to an objective. MM bikes whiffed against the LR and were promptly turned into past by the TH/SS termies. Chappy was killed in a challenge by a PF sgt. I did some poor placement and both my pf dc died before they reached combat DC whiffed in combat and eventually lost to a tac squad :( Overall a win for me. :) EDC LutherMax, Damon Nightman and Chaplain Gunzhard 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Immobilization really just plain annoys me. Hell the vehicle damage chart annoys me. Why? Because Tau & Eldar "Walkers" (Wraiths/ Big Suits) just keep going losing wounds, but we take one unlucky roll and our things are dead and gone :'( Otherwise sounds like you had a good game! Damon Nightman, Chaplain Gunzhard and Sans Mercy 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Dreads will get wounds/toughness stats eventually. So I've started painting a redeemer, a crusader, mephy, a new cap and some more tacticals. Now im looking at buying a sanguiniary guard box to build dante. I think i have a problem Chaplain Gunzhard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 We can only hope. I mean, some god damned crates did :P sebs_evo7 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Honestly, I hope that dreads (or any vehicle) doesn't. I actually hope that the tau and eldar walkers just start falling in line with the regular vehicles. Chaplain Gunzhard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Got my lightbox back, here's some decent pictures of the Lemartes I finished for the ETL: http://i.imgur.com/HHlqnqI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/dDeLVhP.jpg CaptainHelion, LutherMax, Chaplain Gunzhard and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Dreads will get wounds/toughness stats eventually. So I've started painting a redeemer, a crusader, mephy, a new cap and some more tacticals. Now im looking at buying a sanguiniary guard box to build dante. I think i have a problem You could always just cherry pick the bits you want from a bits site/ebay store if you're worried about the amount of stuff that's accruing. sebs_evo7 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 That was my first point of call but all our bitz sites down under are out of most sang guard bits Has anyone got a good recipe for a gold that isn't as bright as the retributiors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Apply retributor gold base, wash all over with 50/50 agrax and lahmian, apply shade of seraphim sepia to recesses Edited August 21, 2016 by Xenith sebs_evo7 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) That was my first point of call but all our bitz sites down under are out of most sang guard bits Has anyone got a good recipe for a gold that isn't as bright as the retributiors? I did a huge gold (different brand) comparison experiment a few years entirely in preparation of painting my Sanguinary Guard. It's here if you're interested: http://atticwars40k.blogspot.com/2011/10/great-gold-rush-quest-for-best-gold.html The new-ish GW Retributor Gold base (with the white cap), as Xenith mentioned is actually quite good and has nice coverage. It's very similar to Vallejo Model Colour Brass - which is my goto base-coat for gold! My old recipe was too convoluted when I went back to it ...now I just use GW washes as they are excellent. --Base coat: VMC brass (or GW Retributor Gold base) --washes: all gold parts biel-tan green wash (any green wash ok), wash/glaze riekland fleshshade on non-light areas, then finally wash some black (nuln oil) into just the crevasses and creases. --1st highlight: VMC gold (GW has nothing like this great color) --final highlight: VMC gold mixed with VMC silver... I do like 3:1 so as not to spoil the effect and make it look like dirty silver. The VMC metallics thin fairly well with just water even. Edited August 21, 2016 by Chaplain Gunzhard sebs_evo7 and LutherMax 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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