appiah4 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Had a spare Frag Cannon lying about.. painted it up and now one of my two dreadnoughts is a Furioso. That means I'm just one tactical squad short of fielding a demi company. And I happen to have one primed.. In other news, I have no idea why the hell I even want to field a demi company.. Because it is the iconic image of space marines... and blood angels are still space marines 3 units of tacticals, cassor, another dread, an assault and devastator squad (along with 2HQ) fit into a CAD and BSF equally well, and net you Ob sec on your tacs and red thirst on cassor and your assault marines. Its pretty much my plan though Ill replace cassor with scouts and take a regular Furioso instead.. Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4522506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Forgive me if this has been very obvious all along. But has anyone thought of pairing Karlean with the OIF? Obviously he is the HQ from another detachment, but stick him in the tactical terminator squad (if yours aren't all assault) and he makes a great pairing. Sure he won't shoot twice, but seriously who cares. So many ideas for this upcoming Red Thirst campaign. Wish I had a third Stormraven actually, because at 2500pts I might be able to legitimately run Dante's Avenging Host. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4522989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Yeah I've been planning to run the old Archangels Strike Force, with Karlaen... doing just that. The ASF also has Sterngaurd and Fragioso in pods coming in turn 1 with locator beacons. :) Rafen IX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'm too afraid to take the OIF (not that I've even tried it yet) without Karl... But my rolling is terrible, so I'm worried about having 600+ points stuck in reserves after I fail the roll on turn two.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) The other option is the Aegis line with comms relay. If you also field the 10th co formation your snipers with cloaks can sit behind the line with a 2+ cover. The scout bikes with locator beacons from that formation also have good synergy with OIF. If in Lost Bro gladius you get an extra move too. Edited October 6, 2016 by Chaplain Gunzhard BAjim 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Well I took it with an aegis/comms versus the new chaos decurion. Deep striking assaulting terminators are utterly brutal. I used locator beacons on a pod and scouts. That recon force is an unsung hero. Our scouts can be scary and they synergise really well with all of our deep strikers. Edited October 6, 2016 by Rafen IX Sans Mercy and Chaplain Gunzhard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Wave? or no wave? Kasper_Hawser 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Wave? or no wave? Try making him look straight forward instead of upward and pointing the bolter straight as well. Then put the fingers pointing on the ground. Will look more better I think. Edited October 7, 2016 by Kasper_Hawser Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Wave? or no wave? Wave. "Hi there! Eat lead! *smile*" LutherMax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I was going to just have it pointing down, but noticed it looks like he is waving when it's up. I think it might be too funny to not do now... He isn't glued l together yet so I will be fixing the bolter and head, I just wanted to figure out how I should position the PF for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) I like it down, but that's me - always liked that sort of pose. Well I took it with an aegis/comms versus the new chaos decurion. Deep striking assaulting terminators are utterly brutal. I used locator beacons on a pod and scouts.That recon force is an unsung hero. Our scouts can be scary and they synergise really well with all of our deep strikers. Yeah all good points. The OIF is big, nasty and expensive but you can utterly crush a flank or shut down the shooting of 3+ units with it. Not much can touch terminators in close combat - especially THSS ones. Ultimate Rip-Tide removal system. It's actually made me really glad I splurged on Terminators over the past year. Like I posted on the previous page - you can take 3 Tactical terms, the Triple Raven formation and double tap then assault from Deep Strike - absolutely monstrous. Edited October 7, 2016 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Yeah that was my initial thought, it looks way more serious/badass down. But that wave though... Sorry Jol! I should probably read the rules.... Isn't it worse this way? Should I edit it out? Edited October 7, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Can't star out expletives on the B&C CaptainHelion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Waaaaave! It's hilarious and it's like he's mocking the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Mercy Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 My vote's for Wave, aka High Five of Gibbage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Like I posted on the previous page - you can take 3 Tactical terms, the Triple Raven formation and double tap then assault from Deep Strike - absolutely monstrous. I gotta admit that idea kinda feels like shenanigans to me. Rules wise it's somewhat questionable no? ...though I guess there is nothing technically preventing it from happening; and then so they assault without a 'disordered charge' too? If GW was more responsive regarding rules questions and more responsible with rules interactions to begin with, I could see this definitely being shut-down - if only because they've recently put a lot of effort into this 'ok assault out of DS but it is disordered' concept. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Like I posted on the previous page - you can take 3 Tactical terms, the Triple Raven formation and double tap then assault from Deep Strike - absolutely monstrous. I gotta admit that idea kinda feels like shenanigans to me. Rules wise it's somewhat questionable no? ...though I guess there is nothing technically preventing it from happening; and then so they assault without a 'disordered charge' too? If GW was more responsive regarding rules questions and more responsible with rules interactions to begin with, I could see this definitely being shut-down - if only because they've recently put a lot of effort into this 'ok assault out of DS but it is disordered' concept. Time to buy 3 SRs.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 Like I posted on the previous page - you can take 3 Tactical terms, the Triple Raven formation and double tap then assault from Deep Strike - absolutely monstrous. I gotta admit that idea kinda feels like shenanigans to me. Rules wise it's somewhat questionable no? ...though I guess there is nothing technically preventing it from happening; and then so they assault without a 'disordered charge' too? If GW was more responsive regarding rules questions and more responsible with rules interactions to begin with, I could see this definitely being shut-down - if only because they've recently put a lot of effort into this 'ok assault out of DS but it is disordered' concept. Seems legal to me. Trouble is 1) you need to be able to pull if off (see draft FAQ) and 2) you need to roll that 3+ for the Angel's Fury on the first turn. Otherwise... Chaplain Gunzhard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) As for avoiding a disordered charge, in this scenario you'd want to perform a multicharge (and thus a disordered charge) because after double tapping there might not be much left (read as: shot to bits next turn). Edited October 7, 2016 by Jolemai Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Wave? or no wave? So 3 votes for, 2 against the wave. Anyone else want to chime in before i make my waving (or not) DC maniac? Yes I quoted my own post, big whoop wanna fight about it? Edited October 7, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I don't dislike either but I think the 'no wave' looks cooler personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 what is he going to be? I'm leaning no wave at the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Death Company power fist man number 3 is my current name for him... I'm leaning towards magnetizing it so I can have my cake and wave at people too.., I like the idea of him seeing Horus and giving him a nice wave before blowing his head off with the bolter... Edited October 7, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Chaplain Gunzhard and Arkangilos 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Wave! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I guess my thought process is most of your other marines are more serious and intimidating, the wave would be a stark contrast to the whole of your army and feels so out of place in my opinion. That being said, that's just my view on things. Let him slap Horus one good time with the powerfist before being torn asunder. Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I guess my thought process is most of your other marines are more serious and intimidating, the wave would be a stark contrast to the whole of your army and feels so out of place in my opinion. That being said, that's just my view on things. Let him slap Horus one good time with the powerfist before being torn asunder. I really appreciate the deep and very well thought out answer! Like really, thank you man. I appreciate everyone else's vote as well and thank you all! I will return with hopefully a painted pic tonight! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/155/#findComment-4523979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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