Rune Priest Jbickb Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hey guys, I've been writing lists for seventh and I keep running into a consistent issue. I am having a hard time getting lots of bodies in my list. Last codex I had like 40+ pa marines and 5-10 tda, but since 7th arrival I don't seem to build the same the same numbers into my lists. Has anyone else run into this? Does any one think they have hit on a good ratio of bodies for a list? I know our old codex we had our recommended rule of 10 greyhunters per 500 points, and I know that came from a few years of grinding on it. Anyone have an inkling as to what the new one might be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 See i had a hard tme eve with the last book, had the old old codex for too long. II guess a way to look at it is by looking at what it is you are putting in your list now, that you didn't then, and trying to figure out if it will owrk equal to or better then what you had before. And going out and play testing things will also get you a solid answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3819980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Every new book and/or edition I always clear my mind and regard the book as a stand-alone, and not in comparison to the previous. That way I can attempt to get the best out of the current book regardless of what came before. To answer you question, no I have no run into the same issue because I have completely changed my army setup because the new book allowed it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hey Immersturm, how's the tactica coming along? Looking forward to it and your experience! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Thanks for the thoughts so far guys. @ Immersturm, I try but that is a bit difficult for me, also the models I own were mostly acquired with the old edition in mind. I agree that a new book requires new thought though, hence why I began this thread to see what others were thinking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hey Immersturm, how's the tactica coming along? Looking forward to it and your experience! Slowly, takes longer than expected. Also, I got a bad cold and was out of commission for the past few days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Thanks for the thoughts so far guys. @ Immersturm, I try but that is a bit difficult for me, also the models I own were mostly acquired with the old edition in mind. I agree that a new book requires new thought though, hence why I began this thread to see what others were thinking. And I thank you jbibkb for starting it. I had and have many of the same questions. I was going through the models I've already built and seeing what transferred or would have a place in the new codex. Still thinking about it and would like to see other's ideas and comments too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Yea, I have far to many power fist models from the old old book. I agree that running out and buying the lates GW things, doesn't always work well as money is tight. That is why I try to make what I have work, even if it goes against what people say you should bring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangTC Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 If you want bodies start your lists with 3x15 fenrisian wolves! Spam blood claws and lascannon fangs and you can get about 120 bodies in a useable army! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gengar Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 put em in troops of 10, so u get 90 ,add 3 times 10 WG aswell, and LF's x 3 in razorB's and field em in a massive army of METAL BAWKSES15 of them!345+930+645+390=2310 for 138 dudes and 15 boxes and a 190 left for ur ork boss,*AHUM* i mean wold lord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 With the arrival of the new book I've been through my Grey Hunters and PA Wolf Guard and anyone with bolt pistol and CCW has been reassigned to the Blood Claws. I guess my new army must be a "prequel" to my old army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3820892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If I starting from a clean slate, and writing lists from scratch, it would be one thing. But that's not the case. I've got over 20 years worth of Space Wolves collected, and I'm not about to re-do the whole thing, so 7th edition lists are entirely affected by what I actually have on-hand. In that context, I, too, have found it difficult to figure out what foundation I want to base my lists around, and have also found that the points add up quickly. I'm having to sacrifice a lot of units, weapons, and wargear that I want to take, but just can't find the points for. New edition and new codex transitions are always tough, but are especially tough when you're heavily invested in your model collection, and just can't afford (time, money, or effort) to start over each time. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3821362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viddar Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't think there is a good rule of thumb for the amount of power armour bodies we have in a list now. Seventh has really wide open list building its not like fifth and sixth when certain units were needed to score. I'm sure something will be considered the competitive build but I have a feeling it'll involve allies, formations, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3821421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangTC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I just wish we had something like eldar jetbike squads for mobile cheap objective grabbing that can shoot a bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3821444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Some what related, but I have found my army much better with this new book. Terminators and Wolves, baby. I do think they are very strong in this edition. And Blood Claws seem the most appealing to me now. Grey Hunters, your time has come, old friends. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3821501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauyippiejoy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I've really gone bananas on terminators, it really isn't sane anymore! Although I suspect that there are quite a few wolves amongst us here that carries a larger amount of terminators than what I do. Since Stormclaw was released I've collected several squads so that I now have around 20 terminators, which for me is more than enough. I usually try to max out on Grey Hunters, partly because they are great and partly because I love the boots on the ground approach. Now I have to try to make room for my terminators which means that I'll likely have to sacrifice more Grey Hunters than what I already have done since quite a few choices have gone up in points. Well, adjust and carry on I pressume! Still, I play rather small games, from 1 000 - 1 850 and yet I wouldn't leave home without at least two squads of Grey Hunters if I don't go bananas and max out on terminators for some deep striking shenenigans! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297322-trouble-with-numbers/#findComment-3821505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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