The Red Thirst Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Here's a list of stories in the upcoming anthology Legacies of Betrayal: http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/the-horus-heresy-book-xxxi.html Anyone else really disappointed that there is nothing new here?I have all of these in audio** and quite frankly feel as though Black Library have run out of ideas and are just stalling for time/waiting on authors to finish their current books. (**I understand some people dont like audios, but for those of us that do, this book seems like a bit of a slap in the face to me) Anyone else feel the lull that has happened in the Heresy books this year, almost as if they were page fillers to make the Heresy seem longer? From what I've heard the last few books have been well boring. Discuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterofMankind Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I think I lost my hype for LoB, seeing as I have read/heard 9/10 of the list. Oh well, I guess I still have Death and Defiance to look forward to Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Is releasing a book you don't want to read really a "slap in the face"? If it had new stuff in other than print versions of the audios, you'd have to buy a book full of stories you didn't want just to get hold of one that you did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Have to disagree. I haven't found the GW audiobooks to be worthy the money, so I don't, and won't, buy them. So I can only really approve of them making the stories available in print as well ( though it'll be a while before I even think about picking this one up, still far to behind on the Heresy series...). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Is releasing a book you don't want to read really a "slap in the face"? If it had new stuff in other than print versions of the audios, you'd have to buy a book full of stories you didn't want just to get hold of one that you did. A slap in the face brother in the sense that they should be releasing new content as opposed to stories that have been out for years in some cases. For someone like me who lives day to day with the next heresy book in the back of his mind, this is a slap in the face indeed. To be so excited for the next novel once you've seen the artwork (about a month ago) to learning that it is nothing but a reprint of things that any avid Heresy collector should already have. To me it seems as though BL had a meeting: "we need a book release for Warhammer Fest, but we've got nothing" "I know lets reprint stories from the last year and sell them again in hardback for $45(aus)" The stone is almost out of blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well, I'm pretty sure their authors are still writing. I doubt that making this available for people who don't like audio books (personally, I enjoy reading far more) has had any major impact on the rest of their schedule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Of course there would be no impact, however I feel duped and a little cheated to think we would be getting something new. Would that be too much to ask BL? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Pretty sure these two are new: Heart of the Conqueror – Aaron Dembski-Bowden Serpent – John French They are printing the audios due to customer demand. There are plenty of people who don't want to listen to the audio dramas, but still want to know what happened. There have already been two books collecting the audios, this is just continuing the trend. Can't please everybody I guess... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Serpent and Heart of the Conqueror were both previously published as event-only Horus Heresy Weekender stories, so they are technically not new. BL has said that they wish to have all HH stories available in all formats, eventually. This works both ways. While older novels are getting hardcovers and audio books, the audio shorts and exclusive novellas are being combined into a single novel. Even having read/listened to a good number of these, I am happy to see that BL are keeping to their promise that given time, everyone will be able to enjoy the HH in their chosen format. As to the comment that the book consists entirely of old material, I should remind people that when Shadows of Treachery came out, there was quite an uproar that only two of the stories were previously unreleased, that people were being "tricked" into buying a book, half of which they've read already, just for two short stories they hadn't. I see this as significantly better, as those who have already read all of the stories this book contains can save their money. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar_Pattern Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 No real Raven Guard horus heresy book..... They really need more imo ( no I'm not going to read deliverance lost, as I've worn mine out) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Of course there would be no impact, however I feel duped and a little cheated to think we would be getting something new. Would that be too much to ask BL? I fail to see the problem. They're releasing the audiodramas into book format for those that prefer to read the books rather than listen to them. They have released a list of what is in the book, explicitly stating that most have been audiodramas or printed in other books before hand, so it is obvious that they are not new works. Not a new novel, but as I can't see anywhere where it was promised I can't see any issue with it being an anthology? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I have Templar to keep me warm until the next big Heresy release. If you guys didn't download it because you don't like audio dramas... your loss. Your big loss, in my opinion. John French has done fantastic work with Sigismund and it deserves your attention Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 I have Templar to keep me warm until the next big Heresy release. If you guys didn't download it because you don't like audio dramas... your loss. Your big loss, in my opinion. John French has done fantastic work with Sigismund and it deserves your attention Unfortunately I must wait a few months as I like my audios in physical form ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Giba Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I got all excited when i saw the Night Lord on the cover but I didn't see any new Night Lords content in the link so now I'm depressed..... :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My shoddy, .50 Cal busted, ear drums say "Thank you, Black Library". Even if my hearing was still on point, I can't wrap my head around listening to a book. I'm glad for the script books, personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My shoddy, .50 Cal busted, ear drums say "Thank you, Black Library". Even if my hearing was still on point, I can't wrap my head around listening to a book. I'm glad for the script books, personally. Oh boy, you're in for a treat when we finally get to download books directly to our brains and "read" them as memories or in-head movies :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The only one I've listened to on the list is Butchers Nails, so I'm pretty happy with this. If you've listened to most of them already, just don't buy this? I wish Aurelian was in it though. Still need to read that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The Betrayer audiobook is the definitive edition for me. It's one thing to read Angron constantly coughing and spitting blood, its another to hear the voice actor do that for every line the primarch has. Unbelievably brutal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just gave Forgeworld money... why BL for whhyyyyyyyyyyyyy? I'm ok with this book, I'm actually hoping for a garro anthology too. My bathroom shelf is starting to get empty again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 I just gave Forgeworld money... why BL for whhyyyyyyyyyyyyy? I'm ok with this book, I'm actually hoping for a garro anthology too. My bathroom shelf is starting to get empty again Im assuming its not for reading then, am I right ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My shoddy, .50 Cal busted, ear drums say "Thank you, Black Library". Even if my hearing was still on point, I can't wrap my head around listening to a book. I'm glad for the script books, personally. Oh boy, you're in for a treat when we finally get to download books directly to our brains and "read" them as memories or in-head movies Nah. There's something infinitely wonderful about holding a brand new book in your hand, smelling the ink and paper, and in some rare examples, feeling the leather or fabric bindings. Thus why I am a sucker for novellas. I'll pay the extra cash for something beautiful. Besides that, I have an intense and consuming imagination, to the point that I can actually imagine feeling, hearing or smelling something when I read. I feed much of this madness, that is only triggered by reading, into my models. I'll stick with reading, for a whole ton of reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 A friend loaned me his iPad to read a few books he had on it, and... I didn't like it. At all. It reminded me of when my mother quit smoking after 4 decades and said "I don't know what to do with my hands,". I never thought I'd miss the motions of turning a page so keenly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My shoddy, .50 Cal busted, ear drums say "Thank you, Black Library". Even if my hearing was still on point, I can't wrap my head around listening to a book. I'm glad for the script books, personally. Oh boy, you're in for a treat when we finally get to download books directly to our brains and "read" them as memories or in-head movies Nah. There's something infinitely wonderful about holding a brand new book in your hand, smelling the ink and paper, and in some rare examples, feeling the leather or fabric bindings. Thus why I am a sucker for novellas. I'll pay the extra cash for something beautiful. Besides that, I have an intense and consuming imagination, to the point that I can actually imagine feeling, hearing or smelling something when I read. I feed much of this madness, that is only triggered by reading, into my models. I'll stick with reading, for a whole ton of reasons. Totally get ya. Which is why I prefer buying hardback books over using my kindle even if its more convenient and easy to travel with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Serpent on the list; is that about Sons of Horus, or Alpha Legion? (Assuming it's one of the 2, if anyone knows?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foostickuk Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm underwhelmed by this release, though there are five stories I've not encountered in any form that I'll look forward to getting hold of. Again though this comes down to the multi-formate release issues, I've moved quite happily onto the hardbacks from initially thinking I'd only stick with the originally sized legacy editions. I don't think this release will be worth the £20 but my OCD need for uniformity won't allow me to just wait on the cheaper version! By my count there's also another six shorts they could have put on there rather than Brotherhood of the Storm whicharen't collected anywhere: Lord of the Red Sands Army of One Distant Echoes of Old Night Lost Sons The Gates of Terra The Wolf of Ash and Fire Happy to be corrected on that list if I'm wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297341-legacies-of-betrayal/#findComment-3820640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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