brother_contagion Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I don't know if this has been asked and answered, but can you have multiple of the same Legacies of Ruin in you detachment? Or do you have to run an allied detachment for that? One vehicle per full 1,000 points may take one or more Legacies of Ruin, but only one of each Legacy may be taken within the entire army. Thanks. Too bad though. I wanted to Out Flank Relic Predators with Flamestorm Cannons! =[ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3860113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I wanted to Out Flank Relic Predators with Flamestorm Cannons! =[ ummm...use codex blood angels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3860237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Cato Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I wanted to Out Flank Relic Predators with Flamestorm Cannons! =[ ummm...use codex blood angels? can't you do D3 of this with Huron? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3860611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I wanted to Out Flank Relic Predators with Flamestorm Cannons! =[ ummm...use codex blood angels? can't you do D3 of this with Huron? Huron is infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3860625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude with a Brush Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 On what page are rules for Predators Plasma Destroyer? Cant find them anywhere :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strazhakov Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Page 32 under Chaos Infernal Relic Predator Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude with a Brush Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Page 32 under Chaos Infernal Relic Predator Nope, there are no weapon stats there. Its not even listed under Weapons Summary on pages 194-195. I have the limited edition of the book btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The book is riddled with mistakes and typos. Off the top of my head ogryn weaponry (power drill upgrade), chaos giant spawn now for demons only, and spined beasts now for chaos only, If you take said spined beast for chaos you now need the demon codex to run it, also salamander scout squadrons at Bs3 etc... I am sure there are many more It's not what I expect for such a premium product EDIT: for those who don't know, giant spawn were always an elite choice for chaos and are fairly straight forward to play. The spined beast was always a demon choice and requires the demon codex as it is God aligned and takes demonic upgrades / warp storm etc. This can be clearly be seen in the latest FW apocalypse book, why they changed them over in IA13 makes no logical sense other than someone messed up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The dice abide website has a clarification email from FW saying they are printed the wro g way around and to fix them. I'll say it again, the quality of editing is horrid. In any company I've worked with, there would be at least a summary termination. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The dice abide website has a clarification email from FW saying they are printed the wro g way around and to fix them. I'll say it again, the quality of editing is horrid. In any company I've worked with, there would be at least a summary termination. Thanks, I was incredibly angry at the switch - especially considering the price of FW stuff. Still dont really understand taking 3 as a LOW choice for the renegades though, but that doesnt make me angry at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You think they'll have the corrections for the slightly cheaper standard version of the book? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Cato Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I doubt they would fix it before the re-release of the standard version. As far as I know, the book itself is the same, LE just came with the poster and slip cover. Also theres the fact that there just isn't enough to to reprint the book in two weeks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3861996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I wouldn't expect a reprint for about 8-12 months either. In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only errata. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3862177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude with a Brush Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The book is riddled with mistakes and typos. Off the top of my head ogryn weaponry (power drill upgrade), chaos giant spawn now for demons only, and spined beasts now for chaos only, If you take said spined beast for chaos you now need the demon codex to run it, also salamander scout squadrons at Bs3 etc... I am sure there are many more It's not what I expect for such a premium product I think we can add Plasma Destroyer to their mess up list. Had to look stats from some ancient FW pdf The book is awesome, lots of good and fun units to play with. But I am very disappointed with FW, the book was ridiculously expensive and they didnt even proof read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3862227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The book isn't that expensive for the quality of it. But maybe that's an antipodean opinion. I paid 45 pound which is about $85 dollars AU. I pay $83 AU for a GW codex. Wayyyyy better quality in this both in art/rules/fluff and editing. Very very happy with the purchase. I'd much rather have all the fun things this book can let me do now with a few minor easily errata-ed mistakes (and let's face it FW are not too bad at this and actually do generally admit to and fix mistakes) when the alternative might have been to wait another six months for an ironclad edit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3862262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 you can still find the relic predator experimental datasheet on the FW site, it has the plasma destroyer rules on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3862728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I got a chance to use R&H as an Allied Detachment to my Khorne Daemons in two games today. One was a marginal loss in a Maelstrom mission (turn 6, made several big errors that I couldn't get back from), the other was a near-tabling of my opponent. I'm pretty happy with how they went. The cheap infantry let me use my Bloodletters successfully as disruptive deep strikers, while Chaos Sigils kept them in line. I did find that sub-flak was a waste of points (though this might have been because I was facing Marines) and would be better off with voxes instead for the same points. I took a battery of two Basilisks, but I think Medusas would work better. I also had a Hellhound, but I'll swap that out for a Valkyrie next time (so bummed I can't take Vendettas!). Has anyone else had much experience with R&H, either as a CAD or allies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3863754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratil Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I wouldn't expect a reprint for about 8-12 months either. In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only errata. I doubt we'll see an errata for ages, Forgeworld are legendarily slow to update things like that. However they do tend to be pretty quick to respond to rules query emails I've found. So if something looks odd or is missing stats drop them an email and they'll likely reply quite quickly with an answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3864064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebris Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ferrum Infernus How to equip it? Siege, or plasma cannon, Infernal Ammo on Autocannon, Multi Melta? I need to know before I place the order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3866975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Destroyer of Cities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3867039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 So excited! Got told a month ago the Vraks books I ordered were out of print...now suddenly all 3 arrived in the mail! As soon as my final order of Death Korps arrives I can start working on the ultimate Nurgle Renegades and Heretics collection! Already have a short story in mind that I am going to write when expanding my Chaos collection. (AND it looks from the bill like they sent the whole order for free. Will have to check my bills to see if I ever had the 30 GBP deducted or not. AND they sent me a voucher for free standard shipping for any order before Dec. 31! Still never got any pins though, haha) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3867132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Flawless Host Fire Raptor looks the absolute nuts as well, I really want to see someone do that on an actual model. Dragonlover I'm tempted at repainting my purple ETL slaanesh minis as flawless host, If I do then I shall have a go, I have already tried it on the top of a chaos terminator, if I can do it there then I'm sure I can manage on a tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3870322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Flawless Host Fire Raptor looks the absolute nuts as well, I really want to see someone do that on an actual model. Dragonlover I'm tempted at repainting my purple ETL slaanesh minis as flawless host, If I do then I shall have a go, I have already tried it on the top of a chaos terminator, if I can do it there then I'm sure I can manage on a tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3870330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 DO IT! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3870484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Will do :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297876-ia13-dedicated-transport-dreadclaws-and-more/page/27/#findComment-3871150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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