Kol Saresk Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 It's out now folks. http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/death-and-defiance-hardback.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The :cuss is the EBook? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3832682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I thought of this too late when the Talon of Horus ebook finally released and we had the discussion with AD-B, but this is the type of thing we were whining about. None of us begrudge BL making money but it feels like the HH novels only went to hardcover because we the fans made it insanely popular, so now it feels like the same fans are getting taken advantage of. Maybe I'm just bitching because capitalism but it isn't necessary for every novel to be hardcover is it? Or that BL has to tease us incessantly every time a novel is released? Jeez, enough is enough already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3832695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Whats the page count... surly BL isn't selling a full novel length Hardback anthology for only $27 aus?? Also agree with DarKnight, as you all know me and my hatred regarding GW/BL sales taktics well enough by now. A hatred that runs even deeper with the advent of "SUper-Awesome_Dude-Bro" "First Edition" hardbacks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3832750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 It's novella sized I thibk, so it's the same price as the other novellas are (promethean sun, Aurelian, Prince of Crows..) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3832757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Makes sense, really interested in Virtues of the Sons :DAmit duels Khârn :O Day Made!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3832762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Lacerus Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Not gonna lie, the description of every story included sounds fantastic. Gonna have to see if this hits any of my local bookstores. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Not gonna lie, the description of every story included sounds fantastic. Gonna have to see if this hits any of my local bookstores.Well i isn't supposed to hit GE stores until like next year or so and its usually a year after that the paperbacks start getting released so it might be a while. But after seeing the $22 shipping and handling fee just for standard shipping, I wouldn't blame you on the wait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I feel like that NL story will hopefully explain how Curze gets back to his legion and the happenings of Sevatar. Even better yet I hope the DAs make another cameo and come out swinging. The virtuous sons sounds good and I'm sure ADBs Wolf story will be pretty dece but I look at Swallow and Kyme and just sigh. The other stories seem to progress the story and/or character development while these guys play around with the obvious. Will the assassin kill Horus? He has a great shot! Except well, plot armor... Fulgrim and Ferrus have a chess game! Obvious Slaanesh is obvious! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPaladin Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Howl of the Hearthworld is one of my most anticipated reads of the year. I cannot wait to see AD-B's take on heresy era Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Fulgrim and Ferrus have a chess game! Obvious Slaanesh is obvious! Fulgrim rubs his nips with each move Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Howl of the Hearthworld is one of my most anticipated reads of the year. I cannot wait to see AD-B's take on heresy era Wolves. A liberal sprinkling of ADB or volkites makes the world go round. Fulgrim and Ferrus have a chess game! Obvious Slaanesh is obvious!Fulgrim rubs his nips with each moveThe lines on the board are just warp dust that he snorts in between moves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Poor Ferrus, even his head cant escape the weekend Regicide antics of his depraved brother Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Lacerus Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Not gonna lie, the description of every story included sounds fantastic. Gonna have to see if this hits any of my local bookstores.Well i isn't supposed to hit GE stores until like next year or so and its usually a year after that the paperbacks start getting released so it might be a while. But after seeing the $22 shipping and handling fee just for standard shipping, I wouldn't blame you on the wait. Yes, unfortunately, the shipping is always painful. I'll definitely be waiting for them to find their own way across the pond, before I snatch one. You should see my receipts for shipping from FW to Texas, when I bought my HH tomes. Had to get rid of a few head of cattle just to cover it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Poor Ferrus, even his head cant escape the weekend Regicide antics of his depraved brother Lol I hope it isn't Ferrus head only. I'd hate to imagine what Fulgrim would be doing with that. It brings a whole new meaning to getting head :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Maybe its just his body then, after all he did give his head to Horus as a gift But then that makes it worse doesnt it?Ferrus: "My body is ready" Back on topic, James Swallow with ANOTHER assassination atempt on Horus... We know they obviously fail Jimmy, give us something new Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I've been thinking maybe the assassination story is set during the same assassination attempt as Nemesis? I mean, it's still nothing new but at leasr It wouldn't be a whole other assassination attempt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3833959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I've been thinking maybe the assassination story is set during the same assassination attempt as Nemesis? I mean, it's still nothing new but at leasr It wouldn't be a whole other assassination attempt. Possible but dont forget there was already another assassination attempt hidden in there right in the beginning when the mere mortal assassin thought he could evade 20 Astartes and get close enough to kill a Primarch with "Baalite thirst water" (Jimmy Swolz couldnt just leave a novel without a Blood Angel referance could he) I found it very difficult to get through Nemesis, just the constant niggle at the back of my head saying "your wasting your time, you already know they obviously fail". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3834570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Oh okay. I haven't read Nemesis so I didn't realise there was another one in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3834941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foostickuk Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I actually really liked Nemesis, thought it was a good change of pace and something different. The assassin story in Death and Defiance is actually pretty good as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3839957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSY Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Anyone dont mind spoiling or gave review of those stories inside? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3840666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Same, but please use spoiler tags. My copy shoul be coming in soon and I like my surprises when I don't know what they are. :D Unless they stink. Then I just don't like them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3840668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I actually really liked Nemesis, thought it was a good change of pace and something different. http://i.imgur.com/Pv5JSgH.gif Must... resist.... *ahem* Yes, if giving reviews or dropping spoilers, please be sure to use spoiler tags for those of us who cannot immediately snatch up a new BL goodie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3840700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I obviously want to read about Fulgrim because...well...it's Fulgrim. But I might enjoy checking out the other stuff even if it's not my cup of tea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3840715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?400422-HH-Death-and-Defiance Short, unspoilery reviews from MiyamotoMushasi there, post #11. It looks decent, not mega excited though. I like the Wolves honour guard thing so I'm looking forward to Howl of the Hearthworld. A Safe and Shadowed Place looks to be the best of the bunch though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297939-death-and-defiance/#findComment-3840727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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