Skeld Ironthews Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hi all, Has anyone thought of running a Wolf Guard in place of the standard Pack leader for their Long Fangs? I'm thinking of using one with a Storm Shield and stand him in the front as a bullet magnet. Opinions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If you want to go down that route buy him Terminator armour. It costs only 15 and you can get the SS for free. That way you have 2+/3++ for the same cost. Having said that, you must be careful not to go overboard. It is a very tragic moment with your 2+ fails on the first roll. TDA is fickle that way. On one day he holds everything and on another he dies when a grot looks at him funny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Not a terrible idea in theory. But the question becomes whether the WG can soak enough incoming fire to justify the additional 25 points. If the Fangs are dying to volume of fire, then the SS benefits you very little. Whereas vs AP3, maybe it's worth it. But then the issue becomes is the 3++ that much better than the cover save your Fangs are probably getting? Imo, it's probably not worth the cost for the limited increase in survivability. Edit: Also, what Immersturm said, much sense there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 you dont have to lose your leader in order to get a WG, the codex says you may upgrade one model to be a WGPL not specifically the Long fang leader. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeld Ironthews Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 Not much point keeping him if you do go for a WGPL though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drunk Guardian Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Not much point keeping him if you do go for a WGPL though. Unless you use split fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeld Ironthews Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 You get that, with or without him now, don't you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Indeed you do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear da Lamentation Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You don't always get cover save ... there's plenty of AP3 ignore cover possibilities out there. I wouldn't field long fangs without the cheap termie with SS . He has only to make 1 save which a LF wouldn't have got ... and he makes his points back. It's even a psychological benefit which might just mean they go fur something else HDL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I miss running a tda CML wolf guard in my long fang pack. That's really the only thing I really want back from the old book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochteas Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It's even a psychological benefit which might just mean they go fur something else HDL What you did there, I see it. As for my 2 cents, I agree. If there is going to be enough dakka flying at them that superman couldn't see the sun, then the Termie isn't going to help much, baring that go for it, its essentially a 25 point insurance policy that your guys will last longer. And Hear da Lamentation is right, maybe seeing that Termie with a SS causes them change their mind, or takes twice a long to kill them, then you gotta decide is that worth the points? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298014-long-fang-pack-leader/#findComment-3834935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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