Coverfire Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Since the change in codex I have been shying away from Combi-weapons on my Pack leaders and am looking for alternatives. In 5th/6th my pack leaders always had the C/melta & powerfist option. Seeing as (at the moment) I am running 10-man packs and always taking Meltaguns I am also thinking of changing the powerfist. For 2 points cheaper than the old combination, I can use a Frostaxe and Stormshield. A guy who can stand up to a challenge, his Frostaxe still wounds most things on 2+ and is AP2. I sacrifice the ability to double T4 and while Walkers are an issue in close combat, meltaguns should help ensure against that eventuality. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I believe Pack Leaders to be a point sink outside of combi-weapons. Not necessarily horrible, but you need a plan for them to work. Taking them just because you can is horribly cost ineffective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3835961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I usually run the good old combi-weapon and pfist still. I've been experimenting with some other options, but the extra melta/plasma shots as they disembark from a pod is quite worth it, and the fist still makes people think twice about attacking them in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3835980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I feel that it is better to have a hidden Power Fist. Sure, you get one less attack, but at least it can not be challenged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3835984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear da Lamentation Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Don't forget the storm shield though. Combi weapon makes your initial shooting with the GH pack have 3 special weapons (which is better than we could have done in last codex) - and 15points for a SS is very likely to make its points back. My choice is usually combi plasma (for plasma pack GH) and a storm shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3836011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochteas Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I suppose if your pack has CCW then saving even once with the shield makes it point total back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3836039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Honestly I have kept the combis and love them still in the new book. But the other build I have been been running is the ap3@initiative ccws. one of my regular opponents is a Chaos player a with CoF forcing me to make and accept challenges and chaos forcing him to do the same I discovered that tossing a power sword or wolf claw on a pack leader makes a lot of difference. Plus CoF makes him WS 5 which makes him pretty good in most challenges that aren't with special characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3836165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 That is tough Question that i thought about a lot and i came to the following conclussion. 20Points solely for 1 Shot Melta is heavy investment and maybe worth it coming out of a droppod. I wouldnt take a combi in a Rhino GH unit like mine. What i consider being of value is investing in a Storm Shield in that 35 points but when there comes an ap3 ingnore cover shot and u roll some saves u will thank god for that. But 35points are almost 3 new GH/BC units so im kinda and if u run 2 of these setup u have a whole 5man gh unit thats not there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298073-wolf-guard-pack-leaders/#findComment-3836299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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