How to easymode Salamanders? (Without an airbrush!)

[God-Potato of Mankind]

Hi guys, 

 

I've been collecting Sallies for a while now and after the glorious events of Warhammer Fest now have even MOAR Sallies. 

 

I am however, so very very tired of Warpstone Glow/Green. I love the finish. Amazing green, perfect for my Fireborn. It's just such a finnicky fiddly ass paint. 

 

Now I've been investigating Army Painter as they seem to have a startlingly wide array of sprays. 

 

Notably their Goblin Green and Greenskin Green. The Gobbo one is much lighter and I feel more likely to suit my already Brightened Sallies. 

 

My current paintjob is as follows

Spray Caliban Green

A billion or two layers of Warpstone

Black inks into ze recesses

Drowned in Yellow Glaze 

Highlighted with Moot Green

 

So overall poppy, bright minis. 

 

Would Gobbo Green be suitable?

 

If not, what alternatives would you suggest - with ease of use being the primary motivator. I am so fed up with the billion coats of Warpstone you need for a smooth finish!

 

Thanks,

 

Pocky

[ElectricPaladin]

Your process seems needlessly complex. I get a pretty rich red for my Knights of Blood by priming black, basecoating mephiston red, washing carroburgh (sp?) crimson, drybrushing back on mephiston red, rough edge highlighting with the Orky red that's one step up from mephiston, and then fine edge highlighting with wild rider crimson. And in some cases (so far just some gigantic tanks, things that are land raider sized or bigger) I've even primed them with GW's new red spray. I've never had a problem with my minis seeming flat or without contrast. That said, they also aren't all red (Knights of Blood = red shoulders, knees, backpacks and helms, silver everything else, some gold and assorted other colors for bling), so the "wall of solid color" isn't as much a problem with them as it might be with a monochrome color.

[God-Potato of Mankind]

Your process

 

1) Priming black

2) Basecoating Red

3) Red Wash

4) Dry Brushing

5) Edge Highlightings

 

My process

 

1) Spray Green

2) Paint Green

3) Wash

4) Second Wash

5) Highlights

 

I fail to see how it is needlessly complex. I get an excellent result with my process, but the Warpstone Glow paint needs multiple thin layers to get a smooth finish that isnt all blotchy. That's the issue, not the complexity. If I can spray an even coat of Warpstone Glow-esque green I've saved a ton of time. 

[Phantomzero17]

How bright exactly does yours come out?

 

Personally if was going down that route I'd do base coat black, optional coat of black green, Peacock Green, Brilliant Green, and then Viper Green.  Adding more viper green for taste.

[ElectricPaladin]

My current paintjob is as follows

Spray Caliban Green

A billion or two layers of Warpstone

Black inks into ze recesses

Drowned in Yellow Glaze 

Highlighted with Moot Green

 

The way you put it initially - especially the inks in the recesses and the "billion or two layers" made it seem more complex. Sorry if I misunderstood.

[Acez]

Great to see more Salamander players joining the fray. I know what you mean with the warp stone green colour going on very lightly. Recently I started changing my paints to Vallejo colours, specifically the Air type for my base coats.

 

So you said you spray so I'm hoping you have an airbrush but here's what I do.

 

Spray prime black

Spray base - Olive Green 71007 from Vallejo Model Air line

Zenth spray- Green Zinc from Model Air line

 

From here use the same steps you have been doing for recesses and highlights. If your wondering what colour the Green Zinc turns out to be, it's somewhat darker the Warpstone but pretty close.

http://smg.photobucket.com/component/Download-File?file=%2Falbums%2Fv647%2Facedeuce%2Fimagejpg1_zpsf6d78889.jpg

 

Good luck, post some photos I'd love to see your end products.

[ChaosRising]

There was a recent WD issue that actually covered how GW gets its Salamanders to come out the way the day. I want to say it was somewhere in the 30s (32-37 ish? - can't remember off hand since it was at least a week ago that I last peeked at it).

 

I know they prime them white, and then they use a spray gun (filled with glowing green?). It's a bit convoluted but not as bad as you'd expect. If I can find that WD issue I will let you know.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Airbrush.

[Flint13]

Yeah, space marines with those broad highlights are *silly* easy to crank out when you've got an airbrush and decent technique down. 

[God-Potato of Mankind]

I tried using my airbrush, but I clogged the complimentary guns as I used warpstone glow and just couldn't get the consistency right. Frankly I'm a little pissed off as I diluted it down to a milky consistency but still it would not work. It seems overly pointless, would any of those paints suggested be able to loaded directly into an airbrush resevoir?

 

Otherwise I'm sticking to cans of spray paint.

 

What would be a good alternative to hand painting warpstone glow?

 

Priming the models black, then basing with a green. At the moment I use Caliban Green citadel spray cans. This is obviously too dark and requires hefty use of warpstone glow. I'd ideally like to prime with spray, base with caliban and then do a first layer with a lighter green.

 

So what spray cans are similar to warpstone? I see army painter greenskin even says it can be used for Salamanders, but also Dark Angels. So it's clearly too ambigous.