GrandMagnus Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hi brothers/sisters I just resently saw this excellent miniature of Lorgar Aurelian on Coolminiornot. I found the paintjob seriously astounding and in fact inspiring, giving me some cool ideas for my Word bearers force. Here is the link: http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics16/img53738df6e5d17.jpg It seems like he painted the "slate grey" power armour with metallic pigments, it actually looks kind of like Iron Warrior armour but still suitable for Word Bearers. What are your thoughts? Could this be an amazing idea for a loyalist Word Bearer chapters colour scheme, metallic rather than matt grey? I think it could. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yeah that looks cool. Kind of like the Grey Knights, although maybe less shiny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3846039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Vidius Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I really like the idea. I painted up Lorgar in the red scheme using metallics and washes, it comes out really well! I'll try and track down a pic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3846361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 I written to the painter of that miniature asking for a paint recipe. When I get an answer I will gladly share it and if its easy to replicate I might make myself a pre-heresy Word Bearers force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3846887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I guess, if you think about it, the old Unification Grey of the old Legions could be interpreted as bare ceramite, which could have a dull metallic sheen. Makes sense to me. Especially if you add in the Iron Warriors basically retaining such a scheme, as I believe Perturabo wouldn't care about a unique Heraldry, per se. Looking forward to the recipe, man! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3846946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainMachete Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I really like the idea. I painted up Lorgar in the red scheme using metallics and washes, it comes out really well! I'll try and track down a pic! I'd really love to see all the photos you have of Lorgar in this scheme. And a list of what paints/washes you used. I'm currently painting up my Word Bearers based on the Forge World recipe - dry brushing rub & buff pewter followed by red washes. Haven't got to Lorgar yet (or Erebus & Kor Phaeron yet), just doing my troops and a few consuls at the moment. Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3847656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 So far no answer from the painter :( Maybe he/she no longer visits Coolminiornot, but there might still be hope. Otherwise, Ive been trying out a few things on my test-terminators (testminators :P ), so far mixing leadbelcher with mechanicus standard greay gives a nice metallic-grey base. But thats how far ive gotter and its far from perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3847748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Could you post a pic of the tester? I have experience with metallic paints, and I might be able to help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3847768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Sure thing, right now its night so pictures wont be good, so I will take them tomorrow morning. It will also give me time to try out another idea I have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3847794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Okay Heathens, here you go: http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Philip_Breusch_Magnussen/Sintiacutetulo_zps636fec70.png Here is the paint recipe I used (note its only the helmet): - Primed black. - Basecoat: 1:1:1 mix of Leadbelcher, Mechanicum Standard Grey (MSG), Abaddon black. - Shade: Nuln oil. - Drybrush: 1:1 leadbelcher, MSG. - First Highlight: 1:1 MSG, Ironbreaker. - Second Highlight: 1:2 MSG, Ironbreaker. - Final Edge Highlight: 1:2:1 MSG, Ironbreaker, Runefang steel. And finally, since I thought it need a sort of brown hue to tie in with that Iron-grey feeling I added a wash of seraphim sepia which I REALLY REGRET because it came out kind of glossy which is not what I was looking for , since I wanted dull armour. So, what do you think? I was thinking perhabs trying a blue wash on the armour? Not really sure. And jsut for the added inspiration: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131115095208/warhammer40k/images/f/f8/WB_Legionary_Crusade_Armour.jpg Ive got an enitre marine made up from bits that I will try to paint in full colour scheme to see how it looks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hmm. So, I have three possible ideas: 1. P3 Armor Wash. This stuff is basically what I use for all my silver/iron metallics, it's amazing. Basically, it's a black and blue wash, and it really helps dull down the shade. 2. Weathering powder. I'm not sure how experienced you are with the stuff, but a shade of grey might be worth buffing gently into the armour. Kromlech has a dark grey weathering powder that might be worth looking into. 3. No matter the decision, I really think hitting this model with some Matte Sealer at the end could really help. Army Painter makes a Matte Sealer which is pretty consistent, and it would not only knock out that glossy effect from the washes, but also would bring the metals' shade down a notch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramell Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Heathens gives good advice. I'd suggest a satin varnish rather than the Matte Sealer, though. Matte tends to dull metallics (and everything else) terribly, in my experience. Might just be user error, though. P3 Armour Wash is great. Haven't painted much since I got it, but it's my go-to for shading metal now. As an alternative to Seraphim Sepia, you could try mixing some brown paint with Lahmian Medium to make your own wash. It shouldn't be nearly as glossy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hmm, I've never had that issue with Matte Sealer. I use Army Painter's across every mini I've done. I think it dulls it just right. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramell Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It's probably me that's at fault, then. I've likely applied it too thickly. Still, Satin Varnish is just right for what I want, so it wasn't wasted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yep yep, I'll second the matte varnish. I use Testors dull core, but exact same idea. It'll pull that glossy shine right out of a wash once it dries. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hmm okay, do you think I might be able to find a matte sealer in a paint store? It would be easier to go to the local store around here, they have varnishes for metal, plastic and wood. I kind of debating wether I should do a post pilgrimige/pre-Isstvan V WB army in the dull metallic greay or a post Isstvan V crimson WB. The downside to the loyalists is that a lot of the Horus Heresy rules will only move forward, further away from the GC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yep, I've used Krylon matte with good results before. Not sure what the European equivalent is thou ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yep, I've used Krylon matte with good results before. Not sure what the European equivalent is thou Well the guy has quite a good selection so maybe I will get lucky. Or I can ask him for something similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I just ordered 2 cans of Army Painter's sealer off of Ebay. :) Generally, I avoid anything at local art stores, as they are usually not formulated for models. If you can find a can or two at a modelling store though, you should be good. Why not do an Early Great Crusade army? Just because the rules are moving along, doesn't take away from the 'old' Legion Rulesets. Heck, I'm starting an Imperial Herald army situated during the Sol Unification Wars! Just because I can't take a Primarch or possessed doesn't mean I won't be kicking butt, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Its definetly worth considering, as I mentioned I have been thinking of a post pilgrimige army, because of the availability of MK IV, the red Gal Vorbak and grey legion, a tiny bit of chaos (not overboard). Although I dont know how much mutations would feature in that timeline, because I had a great idea for a diabolist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 As early as the Calth Massacre, there were Word Bearers who were already rocking horns and mutations, as seen in Know no Fear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 As early as the Calth Massacre, there were Word Bearers who were already rocking horns and mutations, as seen in Know no Fear. http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/bloggerimage8dnye2fgatu.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Then perhabs a Word Bearers chapter using the Dark Brethren Rite of War (i have some fluff Ive been working on), very fanatically dedicated to the Dark Gods, being influenced by a Diabolist, wearing horns and mutations, but kept away from the eyes of the Imperial forces up until the Isstvan V massacre. I could place them at the massacre, sporting grey armour, as far as I know they didnt change to the crimson colours until after the massacre and equiped with MK IV and variations (maybe even MK V? I really like that armour ). You know, I think that might actually work. ATIA: Yeah, ive seen that image before, it was part of what finally made me decide on a legion :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Then perhabs a Word Bearers chapter using the Dark Brethren Rite of War (i have some fluff Ive been working on), very fanatically dedicated to the Dark Gods, being influenced by a Diabolist, wearing horns and mutations, but kept away from the eyes of the Imperial forces up until the Isstvan V massacre. I could place them at the massacre, sporting grey armour, as far as I know they didnt change to the crimson colours until after the massacre and equiped with MK IV and variations (maybe even MK V? I really like that armour ). You know, I think that might actually work. ATIA: Yeah, ive seen that image before, it was part of what finally made me decide on a legion You could use MK VI too, as they wear it in "Mark of Calth". Yeah that guy is awesome, and i may do some Calth Word Bearers when Tempest comes out :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Well, after all, its the heresy: we can do what we want! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298549-metallic-word-bearers/#findComment-3848799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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