Silent Observant Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Brothers and sisters, as we are knee deep in forgeworld resin goodness with the upcoming 4th book of heresy and with the bl being epic as usual, I want to know what units, mentioned in books, obscure references and such, or just unit wants, it can be for a specific legion, all legions, solar auxilia and other imperial armies such as the geno or spire guard, vehicles and flyers are welcome. BFG wants can go here if wanted... Who doesn't want to own the vengeful spirit or conqueror... Or a king ship... Any way what do you want to see, or what do you want to see created... We used to have a thread for this but it was unfortunately closed or has just reached the annals of back pages... So let's revive this topic! And let the blood... I mean creative juices flow! I say Vakrah Jal Space wolf terminators with the giant harpoon spears Something world eater related such as the communion or some more specialist units like triiari with special weapons for ship killing/defending... For reasons Iron warriors, thunders time, stormbezhak specialists, exclusive weapons and rites Anything dark angel related... Lots of dakka Stormbird Ultra marines terminators These are just a few on the list What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroCampbell Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Alpha Legion - Omegon with separate rules :D (I mean why not? haha) make them the same statline and buffs etc, but maybe slightly different special rules and weapons - Effrit Stealth Squad lol. Stealth and Shrouded special Rules and sniper rifles (some kind of modified Recon Squad maybe?) Death Guard - Ignatious Grulgor - Night Lords -Atrementar - Hammer of Wrath (D3 attack on the charge) terminators, with Fear, Fleet and Deep Strike - Zho Sahaal - 'Raptor-like' character with jump pack and lightening claws, maybe makes raptors troops? - Talos .... i mean cmon who wouldn't wanna see this bad boy. Legio Audax - Claw rules for Warhound Titans Rules for the create-a-character in book four including special rules being able to be chosen for certain amount of points Thousand Sons - Brotherhood of Psykers rule on all squads for an upgrade point cost with a selection of buffs or witchfire powers to choose from for points per squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Dark Angels - Deathwing knights (215 points) WS 5 BS 4 S 4 T 4 A 2 I4 W 1 LD9 Save 2+/4++ These guys are armored in cataphractii armor and are the terminator elite. They carry wrist mounted combi bolters and two handed broadswords. Calibanite broadsword-> S +1 AP3 two handed, executioner's edge* *different fighting styles are taught to members of the circle, each with their varying strengths and weaknesses. By sacrificing speed for brute strength with the broadsword, members of the circle split their enemies asunder. Models with this weapon may lower their initiative by -2, in exchange, the broadswords profile becomes AP2. Squad size 5 members May add +5 members for 35 points each May take exchange broadsword for plasma blaster and power maul for +10 points for every 5 members I don't think this would be overpowered as a squad at all - Phoenix Gaurd get ap2 weapons on the charge and Firedrakes get a rediculous durability. This unit reflects the malleable tactics to switch fighting manners when needed, which reflects the nature of the 1st legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I just want them to balance the existing troops options. Make breachers and assault squads better for the points, damnit! Same goes for destroyers, vindicators, and some of the legion unique units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Word Bearers - Argel Tal. Maybe a chaplain consul miniature or diabolist. ... Thats about it. :D as for the rest of the legions I think we can trust forge world. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 irradiation-engines and twin-linked volkite culverin options for dreadnoughts, with arms provided by forge world. perturabo storm tank, maybe base it upon the sicaran. rad-cleanser option for destroyers, and maybe access to more weapons for the entire squad, like idk, replace everyones bolt pistols with something more phosphex or rad-based. more characters, for all the legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I would love to see a 'create-own-character' guide. It would certainly help my own efforts. More special characters overall would be welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Word Bearers: - Hellbrute Dreadnoughts ('cause of the short story in mark of calth "the underworld war"; maybe just rules for them) - Kor Phaerons Terminator Elite - Vakrah Jal units - Argel Tal Night Lords: - Atramentar Terminators Death Guard: - Ignatius Grulgor (Daemon-version) Emperors Children: - Lucius - Fabius Bile Dark Angels: - Deathwing Terminators + Knights (rules + cataphractii option) - Holguin, Commander of the Deathwing - Corswain Blood Angels: - Baal Predator (just rules) - Sanguinary Guard (just rules) - Raldoron - Amit - Azkaellon Iron Warriors: - the Iron Circle White Scars: - Void-bikes - Keshig Terminators Sons of Horus: - the Luperci - Tormageddon World Eaters: - Anbaric claws for Dreadnoughts/Warhound-Titans - Triarii squads Raven Guard: - The Raptors Ultramarines: - Invictus Terminators and Invictus Boarding units All: - Lucifer Dreadnoughts - Furibundus Dreadnoughts - Deredeo Dreadnoughts - more Sicaran variants Daemons: - Samus - Ingnethel - The Red Angel - Kah'banda Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I really, really want a dedicated model for Argel Tal. Preferably one whose base locks with that of Khârn's model. This is so I can properly depict the manliest bromance ever. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I really, really want a dedicated model for Argel Tal. Preferably one whose base locks with that of Khârn's model. This is so I can properly depict the manliest bromance ever. :P Lol I made a comment a while back that I wanted to have a duel kit that locks bases between Khârn and Tal and have them skipping through a field of dead Ultramarines. Because. Bromance. But I guess this would be a .... B) ...Tal order!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Raven Guard: An update for Corax as he feels a bit weak, Raptors, maybe some other flyer type. Oh and everyone's favourite Raven Guard Sharrowkyn, with rules to match his obvious awesomeness. (I'm just messing with you on that last one) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I really, really want a dedicated model for Argel Tal. Preferably one whose base locks with that of Khârn's model. This is so I can properly depict the manliest bromance ever. Lol I made a comment a while back that I wanted to have a duel kit that locks bases between Khârn and Tal and have them skipping through a field of dead Ultramarines. Because. Bromance. But I guess this would be a .... ...Tal order!!! LOL the smurfs get so much abuse... Chances are that my next Legion force is going to be a smurf one... Oh the irony. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Well, apart from everything from here , as well as the Caelus AA Tank, Orthrus Heavy Tank Destroyer, Fire Raptor Destroyer, Golem Heavy Assault Squad & Vilifier Destroyers from here , I'd really like to see a load of more non-legion specific stuff, such as: Vehicles - A proper SM fighter just to exemplify quite how awful the Storm Talon is - Mastodon. Nuff' said - AA Sicaran [i'm currently messing around with some DIY rules for one with sponsoon surface-to-air missile pods, and a turret mount that can fit either a special quad heavy bolter - think blind & grants nearby units twin-linked when firing after successful hits - or a skyfire laser destroyer] - Variants of the Falchion with a four-barreled version of the Cerberus' cannon, and a version with a single-barreled, crazy powerful neutron weapon - This it'd probably be way too massive, but also incredibly awesome - Thuderstrike artillery tank - Hephaestus tank, whatever it actually is - An updated version of the original landspeeder design - 30k attack bikes - Jetbike variants Iron Hands: - Gabriel Santar - Contemptor Special Character - A unit based off those veterans who escaped the Massacre (there were loads of ships that arrived late), with the Sergeant wearing Cataphractii plate - representing the surviving Morlocks leading units of bitter, hateful veterans - with a load of special rules - Chainveil Auxiliaries (+ Medusan Clanguard) Iron Warriors: - Some kind of demolitions unit, with hardened armour, demo charges, heavy chainswords & a couple of meltaguns / lascutters Night Lords: - A flamer-y unit, designed to spread panic in urban / densely populated areas, with grenade harnesses modded for power armour that launch gas canisters packed with (nasty) hallucinogens Sons of Horus: - Special seeker squads that use massive, genetically engineered hunting dogs to track down their prey Emperors Children: - Fabius and the warriors he has disturbingly 'enhanced' Word Bearers: - Obviously Kor Phaeron's Termies Blood Angels: - Those wierd jetbike-chariots from Visions of Heresy Plus auxiliary human troops in various forms for basically all Legions - oh, and Mk 1 Termie Armour. And don't get me started on Mechanicum or Imperial Army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3846892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd like wider access to rad weapons, phosphex, and other chemical weapons to represent the two side stooping to new lows to get get an edge on each other. I'd also like an equivalent to the land speeder storm for recon marines. For IH specifically I want ACTUAL Morlock terminators. I'd also love to get re-animated marines via the technology found deep in Medusa's vaults :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Observant Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 The three brotherhoods of the iron warriors Brethren of steel/cold/thunder Steel for their association with the mechanicum. More siege oriented or siege breaker robots, built to take down the walls then storm the gates. Cold because I want more assault craft presumably flyers heavily armored and armed iron warriors style Thunder because I like dakka, the crazier the better, the more explosive the better... What's not to love? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd like wider access to rad weapons, phosphex, and other chemical weapons to represent the two side stooping to new lows to get get an edge on each other. I'd also like an equivalent to the land speeder storm for recon marines. For IH specifically I want ACTUAL Morlock terminators. I'd also love to get re-animated marines via the technology found deep in Medusa's vaults This is a great point about Phosphex. So terrible that nobody is allowed to use it and entire legions are looked down on because they do. Costs you extra points to unlock and use... ... except you're better off using the regular old shells the majority of the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwrought Huw Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Iron Hands: - Gabriel Santar - Contemptor Special Character - A unit based off those veterans who escaped the Massacre (there were loads of ships that arrived late), with the Sergeant wearing Cataphractii plate - representing the surviving Morlocks leading units of bitter, hateful veterans - with a load of special rules - Chainveil Auxiliaries (+ Medusan Clanguard) I agree with everything you've put (especially the AA Sicaran, something I'd definitely want to see), apart from one thing - Santar. Firstly, he's dead. Secondly, of all the Iron Hands characters from the BL series, I consider him to be the least interesting - both his equipment, and his personality (which seems to be nothing more than "me Iron Hand, me ANGRY". He just seems a little too generic to be a special character. Instead I would suggest Frater Thamatica, Iron Wrought Iron Father. An interesting character, a survivor of the Massacre and he has access to a lot of unique equipment. Raven Guard and Iron Hands - Nykona Sharrokyn and Sabik Wayland. I think a tag-team of the two characters could be quite fun on the battlefield. One the subtle assassin, the other using pure blunt force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakuth Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd like wider access to rad weapons, phosphex, and other chemical weapons to represent the two side stooping to new lows to get get an edge on each other. This. Would love to see a rad missile equipped Deathstorm drop pod option. Also want a flamer-template phosphex weapon. Not to mention a phosphex-launching Thanatar variant. That is all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Varangi and Leman Russ. I need them, badly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Iron Hands: - Gabriel Santar - Contemptor Special Character - A unit based off those veterans who escaped the Massacre (there were loads of ships that arrived late), with the Sergeant wearing Cataphractii plate - representing the surviving Morlocks leading units of bitter, hateful veterans - with a load of special rules - Chainveil Auxiliaries (+ Medusan Clanguard) I agree with everything you've put (especially the AA Sicaran, something I'd definitely want to see), apart from one thing - Santar. Firstly, he's dead. Secondly, of all the Iron Hands characters from the BL series, I consider him to be the least interesting - both his equipment, and his personality (which seems to be nothing more than "me Iron Hand, me ANGRY". He just seems a little too generic to be a special character. Instead I would suggest Frater Thamatica, Iron Wrought Iron Father. An interesting character, a survivor of the Massacre and he has access to a lot of unique equipment. Raven Guard and Iron Hands - Nykona Sharrokyn and Sabik Wayland. I think a tag-team of the two characters could be quite fun on the battlefield. One the subtle assassin, the other using pure blunt force. Oh yeah, since the Massacre's been covered, I'm pretty sure he'll never get rules. I know exactly what you mean in terms of how he's been portrayed so far, but I think it'd be cool to see how FW would spin his character, in the same way that Ferrus' description in Massacre was far better than most of his depictions in the BL books - plus he's the highest-ranking IH we know about, so some rules could have been cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'm still praying for a volkite incinerator armed Sicaran tank.... ...mmmmmh...toasty.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3847686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruvaVolks Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I really want some cool DA rules and specail units. Ravenwing Bike Squadrons for sure (Perhaps Black Knights as well) Deathwing would be tricky because their big thing is they deep strike and they do allot of shooting. And since deep striking termies isn't much of a thing in 30k maybe give them something else. For Rules: Monster Slayers: Perfered Enemy; Monstrous Creatures and Beasts Blade and Bolter: All weapons (when paired with a melee weapon) give a plus one attack no matter the weapon. Knights Honor: Basicly Grim Resolve Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3854611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbus Letum Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I really want some cool DA rules and specail units. Ravenwing Bike Squadrons for sure (Perhaps Black Knights as well) Deathwing would be tricky because their big thing is they deep strike and they do allot of shooting. And since deep striking termies isn't much of a thing in 30k maybe give them something else. For Rules: Monster Slayers: Perfered Enemy; Monstrous Creatures and Beasts Blade and Bolter: All weapons (when paired with a melee weapon) give a plus one attack no matter the weapon. Knights Honor: Basicly Grim Resolve Sorry to say but you won't be seeing either. Neither Deathwing or Ravenwing were created unti after the Heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3854653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 That's interesting. Then, I wonder what unique units the 1st Legion will have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3854683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I really want some cool DA rules and specail units. Ravenwing Bike Squadrons for sure (Perhaps Black Knights as well) Deathwing would be tricky because their big thing is they deep strike and they do allot of shooting. And since deep striking termies isn't much of a thing in 30k maybe give them something else. For Rules: Monster Slayers: Perfered Enemy; Monstrous Creatures and Beasts Blade and Bolter: All weapons (when paired with a melee weapon) give a plus one attack no matter the weapon. Knights Honor: Basicly Grim Resolve Sorry to say but you won't be seeing either. Neither Deathwing or Ravenwing were created unti after the Heresy FALSE .... both were there, read "Unremembered Empire", but please, don't give false information to other ppl ... De facto, they had 6 Wings ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298554-unit-conceptswants/#findComment-3854689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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