Unit Concepts/Wants

[Brofist]

It's all a loyalist conspiracy anyway, to cover up the truth about the Lion

[Marshal Loss]

For my beloved Sons of Horus, I'd love to see rules for the Luperci and Little Horus Aximand.

 

As for the other Legions, just the Atramentar for the Night Lords.

[StruManChu]

Following on from his antics in Little Horus and Vengeful Spirit, I want to see rules and a model for Shadrak Meduson. Anyone who can get the drop on one of the Mournival, and then THREE Primarchs (one of them Ascended, mind you) deserves something special... Especially because I'm thinking of doing an Iron Hands force based around him...

Also, I'd LOVE to see the difference between Jonson and Luthor's 1st Legion forces, with maybe some Cultist or Chaotic elements on the Calibanite side, but I guess that's going to depend on how far FW and BL take Luthor's lot down the dark path.

[Jolemai]

Sanguinius.

 

Blood Angels:

- Those wierd jetbike-chariots from Visions of Heresy

 

We had pod racers? Also don't tell GW this or we may well get our own Logan Claus model...

[gizur]

Argel Tal and Vakrah Jal.

[Marshal Rohr]

Vakrah Jal are just Ashen Circle with the Daemon special rule.

 

 

 

It would be cool for the Ultras to have a special Breacher unit to act as a twin to the Phalanx Warders, but with gladii instead of axes. Keeps the Byzantine feel for the Imperial Fists and the Roman feel for the Ultras.

[daveNYC]

It's xenos, so it's not quite a fit for this, but I'd like to see them do Arhra.  It's the right timeframe for him to be running around in a marginally uncorrupted state.

 

As far as legion forces go, Perturabo's Iron Circle will be most excellent.  I also am looking forward to Ahriman, since I'm not a huge fan of his current model.  Additional corrupted Emperor's Children models will be great too, terminators with sonic weapons please.

[blackoption]

Perturabo can already do Iron Circle in his current rule set.  He has a cortex controller.  Assign a unit of automata to him and you have an Iron Circle.  Those units pack a punch as it is.

 

I would like to see some delination in the 6 wings for the Dark Angels.  Death, Raven, Dread, and Iron are the names I can remember.   Anyone know the names of the final 2 wings?

 

Overall, I trust in FW to make good units for each of the legion.  However, I am hopeful for more special characters or the rumored special character generator that will come out in book 4.

[depthcharge12]

It would be nice if all DA get +1 WS with all "sword" type weapons.

[Marshal Rohr]

It would be nice if all DA get +1 WS with all "sword" type weapons.

 

Re-rolls on the charge would be more balance appropriate, and re-rolls represent skill, WS indicates training. *In my interpretation*

[Slips]

Makes sense. Explains why Sisgismund, at WS7 Only re-rolls to wound and to-hit in challenges, iirc.

[depthcharge12]

 

It would be nice if all DA get +1 WS with all "sword" type weapons.

 

 

Re-rolls on the charge would be more balance appropriate, and re-rolls represent skill, WS indicates training. *In my interpretation*

I was just going along the lines of how NL get +1 to wound and SoH get an extra attack in certain situations, but yes that may work better.

 

I think DAs have both the training and the skill ;)

[Relict]

Another character I want to see in resin form: Cyrene Valantion, Confessor of the Word. 

 

She could be a special event only release, but I want the option having her as an optional HQ for Word Bearers and 17th Legion aligned forces. She should have rules that offer a decent buff to the stats of troops around her. 

[Atia]

 

Another character I want to see in resin form: Cyrene Valantion, Confessor of the Word. 

 

She could be a special event only release

fixed that for you ;)

[Relict]

I was entertaining notions of using a non-GW, non-FW model as a basis for a custom Cyrene Valantion/Argel Tal mini-diorama, but I failed to find any female figures in the right size and of a "non-sexy" variety. 

 

COME ON FORGE WORLD

[Marshal Rohr]

With the amount of circumstantially platonic girlfriends ADB gives his characters, FW will eventually have to make a model of some.

[depthcharge12]

With the amount of circumstantially platonic girlfriends ADB gives his characters, FW will eventually have to make a model of some.

Ya know, I actually just kinda picked up on that...it's his style of sorts - like how his main character is usually the strong, silent type.

 

BTW, Grimaldus' crozius is his love interest. He smashes it every night ;)

[Slips]

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130309132443/glee/images/3/38/BA-ZING.gif

 

...But yeah, back to unit concepts... :P

[BruvaVolks]

 

It would be nice if all DA get +1 WS with all "sword" type weapons.

 

Re-rolls on the charge would be more balance appropriate, and re-rolls represent skill, WS indicates training. *In my interpretation*

 

If Imperial Fist can get +1 BS for bolter weaponry I think +1 WS for having sword type melee weapons would be okay. 

[Slips]

It has to be rather specific. Like the Imperial Fists.

 

If we just got +1BS for EVERY weapon, we'd pretty much be by and large the best legion choice just because of that alone.

 

If it was +1WS if the unit has a Sword (chain or Power) then, sure, Fine.

[hisdudeness]

I hope they don't make a character generator. That's the quickest way to ruin the perfectly good balance FW has going in 30k.

 

 

I would love to see a better daemon allies army then the "pull units from the Deamon codex". You would think that if the SM fought the same daemons for the past 10000 years they would be able to handle them pretty easily.

 

And Custodes...that will be interesting to see how they handle them.

[Relict]

Agreed 100% on buffing the Daemons army list when it comes out. 

 

I mean, the first time Loken fought Samus, it admittedly took him 90 bolter rounds on fully automatic to bring it down. The second time, not so much effort. 

[depthcharge12]

I hope they don't make a character generator. That's the quickest way to ruin the perfectly good balance FW has going in 30k.

I would love to see a better daemon allies army then the "pull units from the Deamon codex". You would think that if the SM fought the same daemons for the past 10000 years they would be able to handle them pretty easily.

And Custodes...that will be interesting to see how they handle them.

I like it as long as it's balanced, I'm sure these made characters will be points heavy.

 

 

I will go on the record as saying, "I don't think they will allow you to create a character that is better than most special characters."

 

But I am prepared to pull my foot out of my mouth if necessary. The same praetor builds get boring, so I think this will be nice.

[hisdudeness]

Why are people using the same build? One unit entry has more options than most units in all of 40k. Have people even looked at their legion special weapons? I have a Preator with a Meteor Hammer and he eats most other HQs...even named ones. Or a JP/bike/ termie build? A players lack of images nation does not warrant a character builder.

 

frankly, the only thing it would add would be special rules options to a praetor. And there is no real way to balance that as every rule would need to cost different based of Legion. The amount of work that would be needed just so the Internet can min/max the character builder is pointless. So instead of having a "normal" build for a Preator we would get a "normal" build for a 'character'. Let FW focus on real rules needed.

 

If you are tired of running your Legions named characters then grab one from another Legion add 25-50 points and replace the Legion rules with your chosen Legion. A "night lords" Typhon would be pretty interesting...

 

This would also hurt the advancement of FW in to normal acceptance. We are finally seeing FW allowed in tournaments and I would love to see 30k added. An open ended character generator would not help this cause.

[Slips]

Well, you're right.

 

Between the Preator and Centurion we probably have the most comprehensive HQ list spread over 2 characters. Why people keep running the same builds is that they read on the internet "This is the most cost-effective, everything else is bleh" and don't consider legion specific rules and wargear when copy-pasting.

 

I mean, I can spam the living Daylights out of the Solarite Power Gauntlet (Imperial Fists) on my Characters and it being Sx2 AP1 with no specialist weapon. Also, Storm Shields.

 

Honestly, people are sticking to "what works" too much. You could make an Angels Wrath list with 5+ Storm Eagles/Fire Raptors at 2500 points easy. Or, with the same RoW, a Jetbike list that has the minimum troops being 2 squads of 10 Tac Marines in Drop Pods to keep their cost down to spam MORE jetbikes Or Storm Eagles for more Dakka.

 

Max your Fast Attack slots with Squads of 6-10 and you've got a LOT of 2+, T5 Marines that move quite rapidly and 2 heavy weapons per squad, not to mention they come stock with a Heavy Bolter.

 

Edit: to add on to this, the Special Weapons options are : Multi-Melta, Plasma Cannon and Volkite Culverin. Awesome, now they can be tailored specifically to certain unit types. MM for Armor, Plasma Cannon for 2+ Saves and Volkite Culverins for Infantry. Taking them at a rate of 1 per 3, a 9/10 man unit has 3. Max out your fast attack slots (usually 3) and thats a potential of 12 special weapons in a group of 27/30 Jetbikes the rest having Heavy Bolters. Talk about bringing the pain. They also get Jink Saves. So, either jink or use your 2+ armor when faced with a Sicarian.

 

Add in a Jetbike Preator with a Refractor Field for 5+ invulnerable and you've got a 2+ T5 5++ TEQ unit that has a Heavy Bolter, More Mobility and Pretty great weapon options.

 

Edit2: Oh want to cheese it up even more? Guess what, a Primus Medicae can take a Jetbike. Get 2 of them and 2 of those 3 Squads will have Feel No Pain. 3 if you don't take a Preator for Angels Wrath.

 

That 1 point in toughness means they can't get ID'd by Power Fists anymore so you don't have to worry (as much) about hitting at initiative to chump an Unwieldy weapons user.