malorn24 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 His weapon profile says it s a AP3 weapon but has smash. Now the rule book states that any weapon with this rule has an AP of 2. Now I am confused. Also there is an "*" next to smash with additional rules for this weapon. Can anyone clarify for me please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298589-knight-captain-elam/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The rules for this character are 6th edition rules. The weapon's smash is not the same as the rulebook smash, and no mention of AP2 is included (as detailed in the section the * refers to). Until the character gets updated to 7th edition (where this will likely be changed) the rules are as listed on his profile. In other words although his weapon has "smash" it isn't the smash USR detailed in the BWB, it is a different special rule with the same name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298589-knight-captain-elam/#findComment-3846960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 In other words although his weapon has "smash" it isn't the smash USR detailed in the BWB, it is a different special rule with the same name.Wouldn't this also mean the BA still get +1I (old FC) and 4+ FNP (but not against AP1/2)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298589-knight-captain-elam/#findComment-3847141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 No, because they have a listed USR with no expressed definition in their codex. You are referred to the main rulebook for its definition, which means that as soon as the rulebook is changed / updated, the new version of the rule immediately takes precedence. In the case of this FW character, he has 'his weapons' version of smash defined in his unit entry. So this effectively becomes a "Codex" > Rulebook situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298589-knight-captain-elam/#findComment-3847189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 No, because they have a listed USR with no expressed definition in their codex. You are referred to the main rulebook for its definition, which means that as soon as the rulebook is changed / updated, the new version of the rule immediately takes precedence. In the case of this FW character, he has 'his weapons' version of smash defined in his unit entry. So this effectively becomes a "Codex" > Rulebook situation. Correct, that little * after "smash" then has a note right after it detailing what exactly it does. They really should have renamed it in the FAQ. It's not like GW hasn't done the same with the Necron gear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298589-knight-captain-elam/#findComment-3847527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malorn24 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 I figured that was it but I just watned to make sure. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298589-knight-captain-elam/#findComment-3847629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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