Dono1979 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I have had a LOT of people ask me about getting Dog Tag sets with their Legion/Ad Mech icon engraved/etched onto the background along with their own army information. With the first batch of event Dog Tags completed and now being used, I can actually take a look at this and work out whether it is cost effective to try and do. Again it is going to come down to quantity and bulk in order to get the prices down, it simply will not be feasible to get one set of tags done at a time due to the cost of the laser etching.Normally the dog tags are AU$23.95 (for two tags) per set plus postage (http://www.oze-id.com.au/Prod_1USTag.php)- 2 Stainless steel, rolled edged tags- Custom embossing on both tags, text can be different- 27" stainless beaded chain (normally worn around the neck)- 5.5" stainless beaded chain (attached to above chain or to backpack, briefcase, etc.)- 2 Black rubber silencersWhat I am proposing is to get the above but with the tags engraved/etched with emblems related to the factions/legions, at this point I have a thread going to keep track of the all of the different emblems which are confirmed to be the logo's being used by Forge World for the 30K equivilants, I would prefer to stick with them and so only offering those which have been released to date, however for people who are REALLY keen, I am happy to use the commonly accepted emblem for those Legions.http://heresy30k.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/1982-30k-legio-emblems/The emblems will be both engraved on the front AND burnt onto the back of EACH tag!So to recap, what we can get is the above dog tag set PLUS each tag can have one of the below images etched/engraved onto the front and burnt onto the back. The text can be UP TO 15 characters per line, max 5 lines per tag. However I would recommend not doing max characters on the first and last lines as the end characters might get covered by the silencers.My suggestion for a format would be the first tag being your Armies details including your Army ID from the AUS30K website, the army cognomen and the Legion/Force. The second tag could be your personal details, name, contact number and rough location to help with lost army bag/case or something like that.For Example:http://aus30k.com/30kwiki/images/5/56/Example_Tags.jpgSo this is what the two current emblems look like, Loyalisty and Traitor:The proposed available images are located below. They will be etched onto the front of tags and burnt onto the reverse of the tags:III Emperor's Childrenhttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/EmperorsChildren.jpgx1IV Iron Warriorshttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/ironwarriors.jpgx2VII Imperial Fistshttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/Imperial-fists.jpgx6VIII Night Lordshttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/night-lords-hh.jpgx1X Iron Handshttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/iron-hands-hh.jpgx4XII World Eatershttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/WorldEaters.jpgx3XIV Death Guardhttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/DeathGuard.jpgx1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 XVI Sons of Horus http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/SonsofHorus.jpgx5 XVII Word Bearers http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/word-bearers-hh.jpgx4 XVIII Salamanders http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/salamanders-hh.jpgx2 XIX Raven Guard http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/ravenguard-hh.jpgx3 XX Alpha Legion http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/ProductCategories/alpha-legion.jpgx4 MECH Mechacnicus http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/7d/7de7ff32ba7877f50f79ced919d8b9d9f9b1a47b_full.jpgx6 LOYALIST Loyalist faction http://aus30k.com/30kwiki/images/d/d9/Loyalist.pngx7 TRAITOR Traitor faction http://aus30k.com/30kwiki/images/d/d0/Traitor.pngx1 AUX Solar Auxilia Image coming soon x1 XVI-alt Luna Wolves Image coming soon x1 XIII Ultramarines (assumed) Image coming soon x1 IX Blood Angels (assumed) Image coming soon x5 VI Space Wolves (assumed) Image coming soon x1 I Dark Angels (assumed) Image coming soon x2 XX-alt Alpha Omega Image coming soon x4 If people are interested please post here using the following format: Tag 1: Emblem Tag 2: Emblem Tag 3: Emblem (if you want additional tags) etc Country & State I dont need the text at THIS stage, I am simply trying to see if there is enough interest in proceeding with the order. Current Orders: Australia Dono1979 - Imperial Fists/Ad Mech/Loyalist Marshal Loss - Sons of Horus/Sons of Horus/Sons of Horus/Sons of Horus Jaspcat - Loyalist/World Eaters/Solar Auxilia Spakka - Salamander/Salamander Deathguard101 - Loyalist/Iron Hands/Traitor/Space Wolves/Blood Angels Wolfguard - Ravenguard/Ravenguard Kaiser Von Fergz - Loyalists/Luna Wolves/Word Bearers/Dark Angels/World Eaters/Iron Warriors/Blood Angels/Imperial Fists/Raven Guard. BattyBattyBats - Ad Mech/Ad Mech the duke - Iron Hands/Iron Hands prodicalxxi - Imperial Fists/Ad Mech romanus - Iron Hands/Ad Mech Bowlzee - Ultramarines/Emperors Children Bobsprocket - Word Bearers/Loyalist Jenkins - Blood Angels/Blood Angels Germany Storm666 - Word Bearers/Word Bearers/Imperial Fists Major Nese - Alpha Omega/Alpha Omega USA Theis - Loyalist/World Eaters/Night Lords/Imperial Fists Recon0321 - Death Guard/Alpha Legion NovemberIX - Loyalist/Imperial Fists/Blood Angels Twizted86 - World Eaters/World Eaters UK mikefrench178 - Alpha Legion/Alpha Legion Canada Dusktiger - Imperial Fists/Loyalist/Loyalist player not found - Alpha Legion/Alpha Legion/Alpha Omega/Alpha Omega rudijetz - Dark Angels/Sons of Horus Indonesia Pertruabo - Ad Mech/Iron Warriors/Alpha Legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3851565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I'm content with my service ones, but this is pretty cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Can they do alternate shapes for the pressed metal, just to prevent confusion with actual service members? Like a circle or rectangle with angled corners? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well, there are also ergonomics to consider - a tag with angular corners wouldn't be the most comfortable thing to wear. I would like to see some Traitor Legion tokens in the style of a lodge medal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Most suppliers of Dog Tags can certainly offer different ones, however the less common the shape, the more costly they become for two reasons.- Less supply as they are not as popular- Far fewer machines to emboss that style of tag, forcing the embosser to use manual processes or a generic, slower machineThe Australian dog tags (circle and octagon) are definitely a more unique shape than the US ones, but for event tokens they are less 'impressive' and for decorative etching they are more difficult to use (as they are not stainless steel), we did play around with some of them but there was no way we could the price down to the same level as the US style.http://www.oze-id.com.au/images/oze.jpg Also keeping in mind that the majority of people ordering these are intending on using them are bag/case tags rather than actually wearing them around the neck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dude im so in for this Edit: any chance on solar auxilia? If so Tag 1 world eaters traitor Tag 2 solar auxilia loyalist Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dude im so in for this Edit: any chance on solar auxilia? If so Tag 1 world eaters traitor Tag 2 solar auxilia loyalist As soon as I can get a reliably accurate image/emblem for SA I will add them, I suspect the moment Book IV drops we will get one. Just to clarify, you can only fit one emblem per tag, so either World Eaters or Traitors, each set will come with min two tags with the option to order additional tags by themselves. For example I will be getting: Tag 1: Imperial Fist (my 1st Company force) Tag 2 : Loyalist (my personal details) Tag 3: Ad Mech (allied Legio force) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Ahhh so Tag 1 loyalist my details Tag 2 world eaters Tag 3 solar auxilia I've got an accurate SA logo http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/sa_thumb_zps0a7789c2.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 How about a Legion number instead of their icon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 If enough people would like that, I can try and get a few done. Most likely I will need a minimum of ten of each image to keep the costs reasonable. I will mention the option on the other threads and see if we can get others interested Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 We have looked into this before and it really isn't feasible. Certainly not at the level of interest we had when it came up the first time (500 or so). The time commitment alone to type in all the details was nuts. Then tracking down a manufacturer that could a. do it and b. didn't have a craps track record. If you want, send me a PM Dono and we can maybe review some details. We might be able to make this work on a large scale if we tweak some things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 PM sent, sorry you had trouble with your suppliers, however I have just received confirmation from mine that I can drop the price per set down to $15 per with a minimum order of fifty (50). I have already dealt with these companies before for a similar project earlier this year to produce 500 event tags for 30K themed events and that consigment was done in a very timely manner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 And that is what I wanted to talk to you about. If you have someone that can work at that level for a reasonable price then it is something I want to see. Both in terms of the site (which you've linked to) and your experience with dealing with them. Most of the places that we looked at before could do it but then had a bad rep for completion OR they could do it but we had to greatly limit the details we could but in. If someone can meet our wants for what we wanted to do then I want to talk to them. My previous post isn't meant to be a discouragement to anyone wanting to do a Heresy related tag. Just pointing out that we had difficulty with this idea in the past on the level we wanted -- 500 people was 1000 tags plus silencers and all that and we just couldn't find someone to meet all our needs. It was always a this and this part but not this part type deal. I got your PM and I'll reply when I get home from work here in about 8-9 hours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3852848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theis Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just wanted to chime in that I've been following this with some interest. Very eager to see what comes of it. If nothing else it would be some convenient identification for the army transports things are in. For me it would be; Tag 1 loyalist my details (perhaps more than one of these)Tag 2 world eatersTag 3 night lords Tag 4 imperial fists Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3857563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Cheers, I will be doing another round of compiling number and lists at the end of this week and see how we are going. We are slowly building up the numbers and I am pretty confident that we will hit the 50 sets required for the minimum order, once we get there then we will start taking additional information like the wording of the tags and addresses etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3857985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 hmm, i may be interested in a set of these as well. Tag 1: Imperial FistTag 2: Loyalist Tag 3: Loyalist (for my keychain)Canada, Saskatchewan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3858023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Sounds like a fun way to label some army cases I'd be in for a couple of sets. Tag 1 Loyalist Tag 2 Imperial Fists Tag 3 Blood Angels US/Texas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3858143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 this sounds like an awesome idea! tag 1: blood angels tag 2: iron hands tag 3: traitor australia/sydney EDIT: any chance you get space wolves or blood angels at any point? if so i will definitely get more of these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3858194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 EDIT: any chance you get space wolves or blood angels at any point? if so i will definitely get more of these. There are a few people who are after them and we have a couple of options; - leave those orders off until we get the confirmed emblems from Forge World in a latter book, probably looking at a year or more in waiting time. - use the current symbols or any other cannon historical and run the risk I will contact those people who have asked for non existing emblems to see which wya they would rather go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3858778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If Blood Angels become one of the available logos I'd get that in addition to the other two I'd wanna get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3859037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Well dono I'm keen for it so pm me if we can make this a reality. Plus I want to be ready for the next tourney you plan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3859044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Ok, another update and good news, I have managed to negotiate another improvements; the tags will now come Engraved on the Front and burnt on the Back. for the same price! The two effects look like the image below, the burning is a black treatment and makes the text hard to read, and so will be on the back of the tag partially hiding the reverse text, while the engraving will remain on the front, being more subtle, allowing the text to be the primary focus. http://aus30k.com/30kwiki/images/6/6a/Dog_Tags_Sample_2.jpg I am also now accepting orders for Legions without 'official' 30K emblems, we will be using the commonly accepted emblem for those legions like Space Wolves and Blood Angels etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3859763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 TAG 1 DEATH GUARD Loyal TAG 2 ALPHA LEGION traitor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3860061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Can I get this too? Want it for my mechanicum,iron warriors,and alpha legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298792-30k-personlised-dogs-tags/#findComment-3860098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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