furbs Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What are the minimum requirements to take this relic? Do I need to run 1 HQ and 2 Elites from the detachment to use it? Or is there a cheaper way? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Indeed. You need to use the Company of the Great Wolf detachment. The cheapest way would be your HQ and 2 naked Servitors without Iron Priest. You add a 20 point tax to your HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3859779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I was under the assumption that you could still use the champions supplement at an allies detachment. So you would only need 1 HQ 1 elite. If I am mistaken point me in the right direction rule wise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3860913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 that dosent seem right , the allied detachment is 1 hq 1 troop choice , the champions of fenris Force org chart is completely different and elites dont REPLACE troops for us in COF they are just the only mandatory selections in the FOC , if you want to use an allied detachment you could do it with space wolves but it wouldnt open up relics of the great wolf to you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3860920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marshal Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Oh no...I have been serverely misinterpreting the rules. Must go go back to the drawing board with my list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3860966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Perhaps your confusion stems from the unfortunate names for the BRB detachments. "allied detachment' is misleading because you can really use any kind of detachment for an allied force. So when people talk about 'allying' it gets ambiguous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Claw of Morkai >>> Kraken Bone sword all day every day! U will have minimum 7 attakcs on the charge up to 9, rerolling hits if you take felteeth necklace of what ever its called and u get shred wit the claws. Up to 9 attacks AP3 + 1 Str and shred. So you are reolling hits, rerolling wounds and have rend. On many many many occasions demolished a 10 man squad on my own!. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamon Wolf Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 what are the stats of the KBS? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Krakenboner beats morkai when character and elite hunting because you can get 3++ and have ap2 without having to rely on rending. Morkai wins when it comes to killing MEQ and hordes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 what are the stats of the KBS? Far as i can remember its S:user, but ap2, so similar to the relic blade basically its our only AP2 weapon that hits at initiative. law of Morkai >>> Kraken Bone sword all day every day! U will have minimum 7 attakcs on the charge up to 9, rerolling hits if you take felteeth necklace of what ever its called and u get shred wit the claws. Up to 9 attacks AP3 + 1 Str and shred. So you are reolling hits, rerolling wounds and have rend. On many many many occasions demolished a 10 man squad on my own!. Does that combo come in cheaper than the KBS then? Sounds awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The wolf lord with those upgrades and runic arm is 235 Points. However you do lack the stormshield, but that is what the TWC is for with his stormshield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 And a Wolf Lord has a 4++ from the Belt of Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 KBS is +1S AP2 strikes at initiative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Krakenboner beats morkai when character and elite hunting because you can get 3++ and have ap2 without having to rely on rending. Morkai wins when it comes to killing MEQ and hordes. funnily enough , this is why I ended up making two wolf lords ( Bjorn and Stybjorn ) Bjorn being set up with the Krakenbone Sword and Stybjorn with the Claws of Morkai. Cause sometimes you know your going to need to chew through a lot of mulch and other times you want the slightly more durable character hunter that laughs at terminator armor. I also modeled them both in terminator armor and on wolf mounts but thats just cause the meta shifted out from under me XP The 4++ helps on the Morkai claw lord but you will feel safer with the 3++ from the stormshield the Krakenbone Lord has. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethzor Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Ive made the same model as you Bladewolf, the TDA Kraken sword and Storm Shield, sadly havnt had time to test him yet. How do you think he preforms? Does he need the Felltooth necklace or is the mastercrafted enough? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think fellclaws teeth are really really useful for him , especially since you arent getting as many attacks as the mounted version . From my experience the mounted Krakenbone Lord just out performs him which is sad because Terminators are awesome , and wolf guard terminators are even more awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299154-kraken-bone-sword/#findComment-3862537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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