Theduke08 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Hey guys I'm finishing some reinforcements and I'm looking for some tips on how you guys seal your minis. I've always struggled with sealing red... I'm thinking about using a brush for gw ardcoat and then spraying some testors dullcoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I feel your pain! I have tried all sorts of stuff and when I thought I would have a winning formula with an airbrush and Vallejo's airbrush varnish I thought I had it solves... WRONG! I have tried it on 2 models and it ended it frosting/clouding slightly much to my dispair!BUT, I tried a new pair of vanishes on a recent mini and bingo! The formula is Klear/Pledge floor polish. Couple of Thin coats evenly sprayed, leave for 24 hours. This stuff is really hard wearing. Then I used Winsor and Newton Galleria Matt Varnish the same way. Thin, even coats and leave to dry. Result was a really nice hard wearing matte finish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I use several coats of testor's gloss (because it's stronger) followed by a layer of dullcote (to kill the shine). It works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Get some of tamiyas rattle can clear and matte coats. They are thin, durable and extremely well natured. No going white in unwanted places and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduke08 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 After using your methods can you notice a change in the red? Thats where im really struggling here. I feel after i apply the matt coat the coat changes quite drastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think Most varnishes will change how the final product comes out in varying degrees. If your coats are smooth and even it should still look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduke08 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 So I air brushed Vallejo gloss in 2 coats and then followed it up with 2 coats of dull coat and I think I found my method... Thanks for the recommendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman71 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Just curious, why do you seal your guys. I have models that have not been touched in almost a decade and they seem to look the same as when I painted them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduke08 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 The reason that i want to seal mine is that I use an airbrush quite frequently and the paint is much thinner than if applied via a brush. This is just to prevent the hard edges and points from having the paint worn off. I only do this on my tabletop minis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Just curious, why do you seal your guys. I have models that have not been touched in almost a decade and they seem to look the same as when I painted them. Well that might exactly be the reason - if you don't touch your models, they should be fine :D but if you play with them regularly, uncoated models will lose a lot of their fine highlights rather quickly. I have a can of old GW spray that I use, I never really had any problems, but I also spray very light coats only, and only when the conditions are good (not too humid, not too cold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-smuv Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have no luck with spray-on matte varnishes on dark models. . . you have to hold the can closer to the model than with spray paints. Otherwise you get a "frost" look on your models. I actually like the way the "frost" in some instances. Army Painter spray-on matte finish really brightens up my yellow Lamenters, but for deep colors it's not desirable. To avoid the finicky spacing the spray on matte varnishes require, I tend to use the brush-on Testors dull coat lacquer. It works great, and eliminates the distancing tragedies. I apply the brush-on lacquer liberally, and lose very little detail (though you will lose some). It's not acrylic, but it's friendly to acrylics: it doesn't cause them to run or peel. But it also means you should probably use a different brush to apply it, and you have to keep some paint thinner around for clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 This is a problem of mine as well. So it sounds like many are using both a gloss and then a matte varnish? Or a gloss varnish and then a dull coat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduke08 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Im using 2 coats of vallejo gloss... then im applying 2 coats of dull coat to get rid of the gloss... Was quite pleased with the result after numerous failed attempts at matte finishes on models... so happy that I bought 2 more cans of dull coat. And with the gloss I typically mix it about 2:1 with distilled water. Should go on very wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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