Sigil Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I love their fluff and rules, but the models blow chunks imo. I want to hack em up so they stand a little taller and do some head swaps with non derp marines. Possible? I've never seen the kit before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGibs Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It would probably involve a lot of sawing and greenstuff sculpting, as they're pretty solid blocks of metal/finecast. Swapping the heads out would involve a lot of drilling and sculpting. Personally, I'd look at some third party obliterators like the hitech terrorizers: http://hitechminiatures.com/null/product/info/126 http://hitechminiatures.com/_shop/userFile/hitech/picture/big/terrorizers_BOX_do_sklepu_3.jpg Or convert your own from terminators and other kits, which is what most people do. I don't particularly like the 'melted cheese with guns" aesthetic of classic oblits, so I made mine out of the new Ogryn kit as sort of big brutes toting daemon-weapons. http://mcgibs.com/junk/chaos-obliterators02.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Those Ogryn conversions look great McGibs :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Wow, those Ogryn Oblits looks really cool. Nice thinking outside the box. I made mine by simply bulking up plastic Chaos Termies using greenstuff and other bits. Some WIP pics can be found here. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/totgeboren40/Daemons/PICT1573.jpg A pic for scale with a Termie (both these models were being painted at the time of the picture being taken, so excuse the crappyness of the paintjob). http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/totgeboren40/Daemons/traitorguards009.jpg I don't own any official Oblits, but the models are notoriously 'thin' when seen from the side. It's like they have been kinda flattened. It's probably easier to use something else as the base rather than using the official models if you want something bigger and more imposing. I personally don't like the 'big-termie-with-cheese' look they have, so I guess I'm biased. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosRaptor Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Actually I think I did what you're suggesting with a box of Obliterators I got - I used this tutorial here to make them stand taller: http://warpedreality.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/must-obliterate/ It's a bit out of date, referring to the metal version of the models, but it did the job for me! It did involve a LOT of shaving, pinning, and a fair bit of green stuff work though. I used it for 3 Obliterators, one of which I converted into a count-as Typhus. Regarding head swaps, the "hollow" where something like a Terminator head would go isn't actually hollow - it's a flat surface with a hole for receiving a pin that's on the back of the default Obliterator heads, so you may need to carve that out a bit if you're aiming for a head swap. Hope this helps some Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I did that sort of headswap for last year's CoC. What you have to do is to cut away a part of the back of the heads. The neck at the bottom of the sm heads has to go completely, except if you want to have them looking up a little bit. Then you have to cut a bit diagonally and to leave a very small rest of the neck. Find the point at the top of the head were you want the head to fit into the socket. Then cut in vertically about 1 mm deep. Next, cut back to that point horizontally from the back of the head. Finally, cut away anything that's too long at the back of the head. Start with heads you have plenty of, because they can be destroyed very easily in the process. Sorry, I can't provide you with pics of the heads being worked at, but maybe my final pics help you a little bit: http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Therrous/Challenge/20140112_131730.jpg http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Therrous/Challenge/20140112_131945.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctem Cultor Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 If I ever need them id convert Centurion Devastators they are about the same size and kits have nice selection of weapons. Simple warped/fused armour green stuff and its job done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Drake Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I bought Mutilator kits, then converted weapons onto one arm (assault cannon, heavy flamer, plasma cannon etc) and put long horned terminator heads on them. Easy to do with a sharp knife and some green stuff, they look a lot better too IMO without being totally different models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3863804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigil Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 This is all great stuff, tons of ideas here. KaosRaptor, are the stock heads a separate piece or did you have to cut them out first? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3864029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Drake Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure you don't have to cut them out, can't remember what I did. They're failcast resin now anyway, which is way easier to cut/drill. http://www.thebitskingdom.com/uploads/allimg/131231/1-131231142Z3.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3864098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigil Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Awesome that's super helpful. What type of drill would you recommend. I've never used one in modeling before. Also, just want to say everyone's stuff in this thread looks amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3864189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosRaptor Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Sorry I haven't been able to reply Sigil, just been doing a bit of travelling today. Dallas Drake is right - the heads are separate but as has been mentioned, you'll likely need to either shave down the back of the head you're planning on using, or carve out the neck cavity a wee bit. There are loads of conversions out there using completely different models though, like the ones in this thread. Another option I've seen done is using SM Centurions as a base - they can look brilliant if done right! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3864197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I surprisingly like those Obliterators, as well as the old ones, but then - appreciate that you may want to look at either those superb third party ones, or look to convert as others have done. I tend to think that the current ones often look worse because of the paint jobs - so perhaps yours can bring them to life! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3864415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 For them I use dark angel terminators with assault cannons from dark vengeance boxes (traded for a set of 3) covered in greenstuff in my fallen dark angels of nurgle army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3892396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I have 6 Nurgle Obliterator conversions that you can see in the Hexfleet Virules thread in my sig. 3 are made using the line of models shown in the first post, and the other 3 are made using a combination of CSM, Forge World, and my own sculpting. Hope that helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3892404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I love their fluff and rules, but the models blow chunks imo. I want to hack em up so they stand a little taller and do some head swaps with non derp marines. Possible? I've never seen the kit before. On this forum I had seen someone do that with a metal kit. They hacked up the limbs and with some plastic and green stuff changed them to an upright posture and added some length to the arms. I tried the same thing with the resin kits and it was easy to cut and repose. Just cut at the joints, pin (I use paper clips), and glue it together. I unfortunately do not have a picture of the guy anymore. Also, I did end up using a "weapons team" for my obliterators any way. And for a near-similar cost I'd rather use these guys EDIT: I found that metal hacked-up obliterator tutorial on post #5. Sweet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3892428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This thread inspired me to do Tzeentchian Obliterators using Bullgryns, happiest with these 2 as the other 2 were more demonic in their appearance and better serve as Mutilators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3892660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaelion Hexis Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I like the base models but wanted them to fit with my thousand sons. It was easy enough to trim down the lower back portion of the thousand sons head to fit into the cavity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3892721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Otherwise, could perhaps consider modifying some Ushabti... Great Egyptian's themed models! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3893955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I made my own. A bit amateur hour compared to some of them posted thoughhttp://i60.tinypic.com/5makvo.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299330-how-difficult-to-convert-is-the-obliterater-kit/#findComment-3894168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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