ElectricPaladin Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hey all. I've got a question for anyone out there with superior image-manipulation skills. Would anyone like to help me make a Knights of Blood (loyalist renegade) transfer sheet? We've already got one for the Knights of Blood (Khornate warband), and that's awesome, but I'm personally inclined to seek out a loyalist version. Up till now, I've been freehanding it, and doing a pretty decent job (if I do say so myself). However, looking back at some of my earliest work, I kind of wonder if my army wouldn't look even better with transfers. Anyone want to help me out? Here is the only visual resource we have been able to find so far: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120503211156/warhammer40k/images/8/8a/Knights_of_Blood_Livery.jpg I think you can see why it will require some decent image manipulation skills to lift the chapter's symbol. Resizing it - while also beyond my meagre skills - to make the various versions we need should be easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hey all. I've got a question for anyone out there with superior image-manipulation skills. Would anyone like to help me make a Knights of Blood (loyalist renegade) transfer sheet? We've already got one for the Knights of Blood (Khornate warband), and that's awesome, but I'm personally inclined to seek out a loyalist version. Up till now, I've been freehanding it, and doing a pretty decent job (if I do say so myself). However, looking back at some of my earliest work, I kind of wonder if my army wouldn't look even better with transfers. Anyone want to help me out? Here is the only visual resource we have been able to find so far: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120503211156/warhammer40k/images/8/8a/Knights_of_Blood_Livery.jpg I think you can see why it will require some decent image manipulation skills to lift the chapter's symbol. Resizing it - while also beyond my meagre skills - to make the various versions we need should be easier. That sounds fun. Just like this shoulder pad, eh? Is that the biggest one you've got? The down-turned guards on the hilts are interesting. It's almost like a crescent. Let me see what I can do quick in raster and then maybe I'll do up a vector one later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hey all. I've got a question for anyone out there with superior image-manipulation skills. Would anyone like to help me make a Knights of Blood (loyalist renegade) transfer sheet? We've already got one for the Knights of Blood (Khornate warband), and that's awesome, but I'm personally inclined to seek out a loyalist version. Up till now, I've been freehanding it, and doing a pretty decent job (if I do say so myself). However, looking back at some of my earliest work, I kind of wonder if my army wouldn't look even better with transfers. Anyone want to help me out? Here is the only visual resource we have been able to find so far: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120503211156/warhammer40k/images/8/8a/Knights_of_Blood_Livery.jpg I think you can see why it will require some decent image manipulation skills to lift the chapter's symbol. Resizing it - while also beyond my meagre skills - to make the various versions we need should be easier. That sounds fun. Just like this shoulder pad, eh? Is that the biggest one you've got? The down-turned guards on the hilts are interesting. It's almost like a crescent. Let me see what I can do quick in raster and then maybe I'll do up a vector one later. Yep - that's the biggest I can find. It's a scan from Codex: Blood Angels (or a screencap from the e'dex), and pretty much the only iteration of the symbol I've seen anywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Okay, this is not the 'production version' but it's got the right basic shapes. I threw in a clean version of the sword as a bonus, thinking it might come in handy on something like a leg or a big one on a Land Raider. Could do the same for the shield. If you think the shape is right, I can clean it up and send you a 'real' one when I have time. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Okay, this is not the 'production version' but it's got the right basic shapes. I threw in a clean version of the sword as a bonus, thinking it might come in handy on something like a leg or a big one on a Land Raider. Could do the same for the shield. If you think the shape is right, I can clean it up and send you a 'real' one when I have time. Thoughts? Hot damn, man. That's pretty much perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Sweet. Anything you want me to tweak before I do the full one? Are you able to lay this out as a decal sheet or should we hand that off to someone who does it a lot? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Sweet. Anything you want me to tweak before I do the full one? Are you able to lay this out as a decal sheet or should we hand that off to someone who does it a lot? Probably you'd have an easier time with that than I - I've done it the once, but with a much simpler image, and the big ones don't look to hot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Well, do me a favor and look in the decals section of the forum for a good layout in terms of the right number of different sizes and stuff. I can just make it match that. Also, since you can't print white, what do you think makes sense for the shield? Maybe a black outline that you can fill in? The black outline might look odd unless you completely cover it and then you're talking about taking a lot of time. You might want to look into ordering them from a company that prints white. I've been thinking about buying a specialized printer and trying to start doing that as side business, but the printers cost thousands and I don't have that kind of cash to start it up. In the meantime, there's no easy answer for the white. What are your thoughts on this logo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Here is the Exorcists sheet BoLS made. It's probably a good format for the sizes. As far as how to handle the white, I have two thoughts: I actually don't think a black border would look bad at all. My freehand protocol uses a black border; if you look closely at the original, there's a black border there as well. You actually can do opaque transfers, which would allow the white to show up. You just have to use opaque transfer paper, which is a slightly different product. It only requires either a very delicate hand with the craft knife or a willingness to touch up the paint job after the transfer has been applied. Alternately, you could do what they did in the Exorcists sheet I linked to and add a red "glow" around the icon, which would make it easier to blend it into a red shoulder pad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Here is the Exorcists sheet BoLS made. It's probably a good format for the sizes. As far as how to handle the white, I have two thoughts: I actually don't think a black border would look bad at all. My freehand protocol uses a black border; if you look closely at the original, there's a black border there as well. You actually can do opaque transfers, which would allow the white to show up. You just have to use opaque transfer paper, which is a slightly different product. It only requires either a very delicate hand with the craft knife or a willingness to touch up the paint job after the transfer has been applied. Alternately, you could do what they did in the Exorcists sheet I linked to and add a red "glow" around the icon, which would make it easier to blend it into a red shoulder pad. I've been through all this with my Eagle Eyes. I'd recommend a black border and painted shield, but it' support to you. When I did the logo on white paper with a big green border, it was actually a huge hassle to paint around the edges. I never felt like they blended. Also, trying to get the red to match is tough and I don't think I'd be able to help much. I ended up printing out a page of test shades and I still couldn't find a perfect match. In this case, you could cut around the shield very easily, but those swords would be impossible. How would you feel about doing a double application? One transfer for swords, printed black on clear, and another for the shield, on white paper and cut out carefully? If that's a bit much, I'd just do a black border and paint in the shield personally. You can even preparing a white shield and then lay the transfer on top and touch up. That would be nice if you want to keep a clean black border around it. Thoughts on those ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Hm. Double application... that sounds kind of cool, actually. I will bow to your superior experience, here. The only one of these I ever made was black and white, and even then it didn't turn out to well. I'd say you should do whatever you think is best. You've done this more than I have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Actually I can just send you plans for both and if one method doesn't work, you can try the other. I ended up watching a movie with the miss so I won't be able to crank 'em out tonight. I'll get them tomorrow with any luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Actually I can just send you plans for both and if one method doesn't work, you can try the other. I ended up watching a movie with the miss so I won't be able to crank 'em out tonight. I'll get them tomorrow with any luck. There are like three Knights of Blood players here - you're the one doing me a huge favor. The last thing I'm going to do is rush you. Thanks in advance - I look forward to seeing the fruits of your labor. Enjoy the film! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Okay, dude. I created a few files and dropped them in this Dropbox folder: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6k3fw9begzxeqa2/AACliTQI9sbjWVxmC3bhIWZma?dl=0 One to print on white with a red 'glow' around it, like the Exorcists sheet. One to print on clear paper with a black outline around a clear shield. This one would require you to either underpaint a white shield and drop the transfer on top or overpaint the shield on top of the transfer. I think you'd find good results with it. I did one sheet of just swords to print on clear paper for a combined approach. This would be the base. I did two sheets of just shields to be printed on white paper and very carefully cut out. I did one with a red glow and one with a gray, which would be slightly easier on your ink supply. In theory, you should really be cutting ALL of the border away on these, so these would leave you with just straight white shields and no border around them. Feel free to try a couple methods and see what works. I know Testors sells a pack of both white and clear paper, so you may want to get that to test. I'm not really sure what size that sheet is meant to be printed on (I've never used the BoLS ones myself) so I can't say if it should be be A5 or A4 size. I'm sure they have instructions for them. Of course, I still have the Photoshop files so if you think anything needs tweaking it's probably doable. This took WAY longer than I thought it would, but the hard stuff is already done. Hit me up with any questions. If they work and you settle on a design, we can probably upload them to the decal project file section here on B&C. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Awesome. I'll try to repaint some shoulder pads during the Thanksgiving break and post some pics when I've done it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Sounds good, man. Take it easy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299451-request-knights-of-blood-transfer-sheet/#findComment-3866929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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