Helias_Tancred Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I know each company generally has a champion, but what about a chapter champion? Does the Blood Angels have one? Is there room in the lore to create your own? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I just took a look at our codex and didn't see anything in particular about chapter champion. I would personally say that you can create fluff for a Blood Champion and say that he's the chapter champion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 That's what I was thinking ... but wasn't sure? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'd probably use captain stats for a chapter champ tbh. Especially if we get better captains in the next book. (Think legion centurion) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Lots of space to create your own In he original fluff, many chapters also had their own Emperor's Champion, and could field the model. If Each company has a champion, then it stands to reason there would be a chapter champion. I essentially do this with my TH/SS veteran. As with Blind, he uses the captain's statline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavalier73 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 In other codex chapters it seems the chapter champion is drawn from the master's Honour Guard. So perhaps the Blood Angels equivalent would be the commander or member of the Sanguinary Guard? For what its worth Azkaellon was chosen to duel Lucius in "Virtues of the Sons", so a possible precedent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The basic role of the Chapter Champion is fulfilled by the Sanguinor. It's not the same as other Chapters' Champions with regard to how he fits in the Chapter, where he comes from, etc., but it is the concept that is fulfilled. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be nice to see some Blood Angels Chapter Champion ideas (I have one percolating right now), mind you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is mine. I should really get some better photos. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Blood%20Angels/Characters/DSCF0915_zps28b283fc.jpg When I run him, these days it's as an allied SM captain with TH and Shield Eternal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is mine. I should really get some better photos. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Blood%20Angels/Characters/DSCF0915_zps28b283fc.jpg When I run him, these days it's as an allied SM captain with TH and Shield Eternal. Swet mini! Where are the helm wings from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Dark Angels upgrade Sprue, I nabbed them from a friend! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3870927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 In other codex chapters it seems the chapter champion is drawn from the master's Honour Guard. So perhaps the Blood Angels equivalent would be the commander or member of the Sanguinary Guard? For what its worth Azkaellon was chosen to duel Lucius in "Virtues of the Sons", so a possible precedent. Who won? I'm not familiar with that story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 That Lucius is still alive and kicking in M40 should give a clue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 But we think Azkaellon may be too... If he turns out to be the sanguinor (my favourite background for him) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Well that sucks! Lucius was a bastard! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Duels arent always to the death... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Sometimes they're to the pain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 That Lucius is still alive and kicking in M40 should give a clue Yeah, Lucius is cheating. Someone please accidentally drop a cyclon torpedo on the little 's head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Blood Angels Chapter Champion?.. Surely what you meant to say was Captain Erasmus Tycho.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3871614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavalier73 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Who won? I'm not familiar with that story. Its part of the "Death and Defiance" anthology. Basically Sanguinius sends his 'shield' (Azkaellon) and his 'sword' (Amit) to duel Lucius and Karn respectively. He is afraid that both are too stuck in their roles and that they will not be able to adapt in order to survive the curse of their lineage. Azkaellon loses but knocks both himself and Lucius off a ledge into the sea, much to the latter's dismay Amit called a draw but Khârn felt he had been defeated, so not all bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Wait... Lucius wins?! So does that mean that the long list of people to beat him are also better than the leader of our primarchs bodyguard? Ah well.. shame they didn't focus on Raldoran whom is apparently one of the top fighters (source: short story where one of the DA top fighters muses on who are top) edit - i hate phone auto correct Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavalier73 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Wait... Lucia wins?! So does that mean that the long list of people to beat him are also better than the leader of our primaries bodyguard? Ah well.. shame they didn't focus on Raldoran whom is apparently one of the top fighters (source: short story where one of the DA top fighters muses on who are top) For good or ill it appears that Amit may have taken over from Raldoron. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 A shame as I much preferred Raldaron lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Amit can be the scrapper, doesnt mean raldoran isnt still the bossman. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Wait... Lucius wins?! So does that mean that the long list of people to beat him are also better than the leader of our primarchs bodyguard? Again, there is a difference between a duel and a fight. Within the strict rules of the duel, Lucius was top. Once the rules go out the window, many have beaten him. As you can see, Lucius beat Azkellon, but then Az took him off a cliff. And we know only Angels can fly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Within the strict rules of the duel, Lucius was top. Once the rules go out the window, many have beaten him. Loken even beat him within the rules of a duel. OK he interpreted the rules creatively, but still. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299657-blood-angel-champion-chapter-champs/#findComment-3872525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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