irwit Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Hi all Simple question really. I'm trying to find a low choice that isn't apoc only? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Baneblades... nothing is apocalypse anymore really. Since Escalation and Stronghold assault you can field pretty much anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Vash is correct, you can have a Lord of War in a normal FOC and that's before you consider formations or unbound etc! Apoc only units don't really exist anymore, so feel free to add a Baneblade to your collection ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 But save it for either Big Guns or the ETL ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 There's a tournament I was looking at going to and was told forgeworld and lord of war choices are OK but no apocalypse units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'm not sure what that could mean. you should contact them for clarification on the matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 I did ask to dou le check and he just said no apocalypse units. Only lords of war under 400points? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ha ha! There are no such rules mate. I think the tournament organiser is still living in 5th and 6th edition. He needs to drop all of that and enter 7th edition. But I'll give him that old codex/Imperial armour books do refer to some units as "apocalypse only" units. But this was because they were written before 7th edition. Restricting players to "no apocalypse units" will result in some armies able to use Lord of War units because they have lost their "apocalypse only" status. While some other armies will be stuck with normal units because their "apocalypse only" units have not gotten their books re-written. Total rubbish if you ask me. Stick to one set of rules or make restrictions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoqqu Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Could this refer to apocalypse formations? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Forge World released an FAQ that basically rounded up every LoW they ever made and went, "yup, feel free to use these." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Got a link? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 It's on their downloads page: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/L/lordsofwar.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3874933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yes it does seem like some confusion has come from somewhere! Sounds like what he means is no formations perhaps as Thoqqu said? The points limit of 400pts makes sense at least :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3875112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 It was specifically apocalypse choice, he didn't mentioned formations. I thought it was quite weird and asked for some explanation but never heard anything back. Its the Caledonian in the UK in January. 180 person tournament so would have thought rules would be pretty tight and well explained. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3875118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 It's the weekend so give him some time to respond ;) Do you have a link to the event and rules? I did a quick search and found mention of a Caledonian tourney and I couldn't see any mention of super heavies in their rules pdf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3875133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=124410. Rules pack on front page. I asked the question on page 4 and never got a reply. Sent a pm last week and told no apocalypse. I replied for an explanation as that basically means no low for astra militarum but never got a reply. I understand the guy will be busy which is why I was asking in here about non apoc low choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3875147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The rules pack states Forge World units with a Warhammer 40,000 stamp are okay. IA1, 2nd edition came out before Escalation, so Lords of War weren't a thing at the time and all the super-heavies in it were stamped Apocalypse only. That's what the Lords of War FAQ I linked above is for - it's basically a bunch of retrospective Warhammer 40,000 Approved stamps. You should be okay with any unit on the FAQ list or in the Escalation book. subject to the tournament's <490 points rule. That includes Malcadors, Machariuses, and about half the Baneblade variants. Obviously double-check your list with the organiser before you turn up, but by the letter of the rules pack, they're allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3875164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwit Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 I did specifically ask about the macharius and told no but maybe he didn't know about this update. I will post up and hopefully get a reply this time. Thanks for the help all :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299821-do-we-have-any-lords-of-war-that-are-not-apoc-only/#findComment-3875175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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