tomsev Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 So my gaming group is have a 1000pts campain, and im taking my grey knights... Il use too playing them at 1850 points not 1000 So im up against orks, necrons, da, chaos... So i was thinking of something like: Hq Libby 110 Troops Termies 4 halbeards, psycannon, hammer Termies 3 falchions, 2 hammers, psycannon Heavy support Dreadknight Heavy incinerator, heavy psycannon, great sword, teleporter Dreadknight Heavy psylincer, heavy psycannon, teleporter 980pts so what to do with the last 20pts??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 change the great sword into a hammer make the librarian the level 3. Points maxed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3875347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 1000pt games are really annoying to play. I'd take this instead; HQ: Librarian w/stave (110 points) Troops: Justicar w/sword, 2x Terminators w/sword+psycannon, 7x Terminators w/sword (370 points) Heavy Support: (2) Dreadknight w/greatsword, heavy psycannon, heavy incinerator, teleporter (225 points each) Fortifications: Aegis Line w/Comms Array (70 points) Total: 1000pts Against lists without Interceptor you can Deepstrike, Run and Shoot. In smaller games you generally don't need upgraded Terminators, they'll stomp most things at that point level just fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3875434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Problem is thats how theyre modelled... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3875449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Is your group big on WYSIWYG? Provided you tell them you only have swords and psycannon, I'm not sure they'll mind. If you really want those upgrades, you could drop out the heavy incinerators (they're nice against hordes but heavy psycannon and your storm bolters already kill chaff fine so they're not essential). 40pts should give you enough to load up on falchions and hammers. You need force weapons on your DK's. Hammer if you wanna save points, greatsword if you have 5pts spare to do so. Without a force weapon, DK's are much less scary to anything over T6 or with FNP (oh hai Riptides). 'Force' also helps against multi-wound with strong invul, as only one failed save still insta-gibs them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3875505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 OK so they accept weapon proxys, so OK for sword termies, however dont i want a hammer in each squad? Ok for hammers on ndks... Any other things i should change or do you think it will do well against my opponents?? I was thinking should i use shooty ndk as warlord? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3877445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raverrn Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 OK so they accept weapon proxys, so OK for sword termies, however dont i want a hammer in each squad? Ok for hammers on ndks... Any other things i should change or do you think it will do well against my opponents?? I was thinking should i use shooty ndk as warlord? Yes, If you have spare points, why not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3877962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I was thinking should i use shooty ndk as warlord? Yeah its fairly amusing. Although you'll need to avoid getting him killed, which can be difficult as DK's are very aggressive and invariably draw a lot of enemy hate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3877986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Are the NDK's doomfists not force anymore? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3880442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raverrn Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Are the NDK's doomfists not force anymore? What's a doomfist? Do you own the Codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3880588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tochtli Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Unfortunately doomfists are now classified as power fists, no force. If you want force you must pay for the Hammer or Greatsword. Don't forget the Heavy psilencer is now also force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3880799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 So my game tomorrow is gonna be a 1vs1vs1vs1 with me orks necrons and da... Who do i jump on first, da is bringing a 5 man ravenwing command squad that i will avoid like the plague... Other than that there are no fliers either... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 So my game tomorrow is gonna be a 1vs1vs1vs1 with me orks necrons and da... Who do i jump on first, da is bringing a 5 man ravenwing command squad that i will avoid like the plague... Other than that there are no fliers either... The dude to your right, because you always pass to the left hand side. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Right so game was today and may i say what a great game!!! 1vs1vs1vs1 with me grey knight, orks, necrons and dark angels... Right so none of their armies were equiped for this many 2 plus saves... And it was a relic immobilised in thé middle of the board and thé army holding it end game won... MVP definetly was optimus... My ndk with HI HP GS PT, he killed 20 necrons, a monolith, an ork trukk with the boys inside, a squad of grots, and ended thé game with 2wounds supporting my last squad of termies and my libby on the relic... I managed tohold off my opponents on 3 different fronts lots of terrain actually really helped me in to funneling my opponents into narrow corridors where their numbers meant nothing... Very king leonidas from 300 it was... Felt like a spartan!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Haha nice one man. Yeah if they don't have much in the way of AP2, and they can't bring critical mass against you, your superior statlines and firepower win out. Dreadknights are pretty obnoxious if they can't get past the 2+ save, T6 just stops so many shots even wounding him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 I even had a 5 man termie squad take 60 necrons shots and just laugh back in response as i lost none of them go it, actually all i lost was a sword termie squad with a psycannon and Bumblebee thé shooty ndk... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yes, Raverrn, I do. But apparently unlike you, I manage to retain info from previous codesies. Doomfists are what DKs come armed with base Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yes, Raverrn, I do. But apparently unlike you, I manage to retain info from previous codesies. Doomfists are what DKs come armed with base Yep, they are still Doomfists. Unfortunately, Doomfists are now just Powerfist. :( SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3881980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 No, easy enough. Wish everyone wasn't creappy about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3882004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raverrn Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yes, Raverrn, I do. But apparently unlike you, I manage to retain info from previous codesies. Doomfists are what DKs come armed with base Mmm. You might want to read it sometime. Or be less butthurt. One of the two~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3882009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 This from the man who just asked what doomfists are... seriously, Moderati, some help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3882232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raverrn Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 This from the man who just asked what doomfists are... seriously, Moderati, some help? http://i.imgur.com/dKki4UKl.jpg No, I...I don't see doomfists in here anywhere! Seriously, Moderati, some help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3882387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hahaha Wrong codex!!! Not that it changes any thing!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3882599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I think its pretty clear this thread has drifted way off course. I'd ask everyone to be more constructive when they're replying to others. Yes, sometimes people ask questions that can be answered by just reading the codex. In that case, just provide a quote or page reference. No need to get dismissive or sarcastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299855-help-1000pts-not-use-to-this-little-points/#findComment-3882642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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