Raktra Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/H/Horus_Heresy_7th_Ed_FAQ_Dec_2014.pdfMoritat/ Primus Medica/ Librarian/ MoS fans are gonna be a bit sad. On the other hand, veteran squads got a smidge more badass, and they cleared up how Horus' armour and Lorgar's psychic shenanigans work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 That Moritat plasmapistol nerf makes me sad :<. Also, why they aren't give us graviton-combi weapons and gravitonguns on vet. tacticals? atleast the combi-volkite is cool ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT USE A PRIMUS MEDICAE AS A COMPULSORY HQ!!!! Ughhhh Time to rethink a bunch of my list ideas.... The rest of the Changes are nice. The nerf to Plasma Moritats was needed, tbh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Well that cleared up a bunch of questions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Where is my errata allowing Gorgons to purchase combi-weapons!?! WHERE! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Where is my errata allowing Gorgons to purchase combi-weapons!?! WHERE! I don't care how impractical it is, I'd buy eight combi-grenades and two gravitons and throw templates at EVERYOOOOOONE. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 We bring the night, with precision! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 So nothing about Jetbikes changing the armour save of rider. Was that a think introduced in the Crusade list or did I imagine it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Oh noes I was going to have my iron warrior hq as master of signal :'( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Mortis Dreads can choose to use their helical targeting. That's a plus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Interesting changes, but more interesting is this bit of info: (see the forthcoming Age of Darkness rules download and our most recently published Horus Heresy books) I wonder what it will be, maybe they'll make the Age of Darkness Force Organization Charts free to download and use for 40k armies or something Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Interesting changes, but more interesting is this bit of info: (see the forthcoming Age of Darkness rules download and our most recently published Horus Heresy books) I wonder what it will be, maybe they'll make the Age of Darkness Force Organization Charts free to download and use for 40k armies or something There are supposed to be changes to some of the army list things in the crusade army list compared with the original 3 books. Hopefully it will be the differences as I'm not paying for the Crusade army list and currently stuck with the original lists Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Not sure what to think about chain fire gets hot. One one side it reduces his damage output. On the other he is paying to lose a point in BS when using his ability with a specific weapon. When using plasma he is going to shoot himself anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I built a twin plasma moritat.. I'm glad my general intention was to look at him. Though kudos to any man who can roll 20+ 3+'s to take out the tac blobs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 e: Looks like Kyr Vhalen got a nice buff. Also Forgeworld's editing team did a really great job on the command tank clarification... it still makes no sense and is entirely cryptic. We're still left wondering if they nerfed the thing or just added an additional buff to it. So nothing about Jetbikes changing the armour save of rider. Was that a think introduced in the Crusade list or did I imagine it? It's in the little red books. Jetbikes give you a 2+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 My poor Master of Signal. Oh well. At least they cleared things up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whoops. Sorry about the double post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm just happy Mortis dreads/contemptors are good again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm just happy Mortis dreads/contemptors are good again! It's not really any different, they're still not as good as they were in 6th. In 6th, you could remain stationary in your movement phase and fire at a ground target at full BS in your shooting phase, and still have interceptor/skyfire for their reserves. Pre-FAQ with 7th ed rules, you had to choose whether to wiggle the model on the table ("movement") to deactivate the Helical Targeting Array so you could shoot at something on the ground, or stay stationary so you can provide air cover. The only difference now is that you can just announce whether or not you're using it instead of moving the model a millimeter to the side so you count as moving. Zero change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Except if you get immobilised, pre faq you were rendered useless against most things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Except if you get immobilised, pre faq you were rendered useless against most things. Certainly is one aspect that I hadn't considered, but in the current meta of killing things via hull point stripping, you usually don't have time to accumulate a lot of damage table results. So, minor change for immobilized dreads - otherwise, Mortis remains significantly nerfed from its heyday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3876929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonite Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT USE A PRIMUS MEDICAE AS A COMPULSORY HQ!!!! Ughhhh Time to rethink a bunch of my list ideas.... The rest of the Changes are nice. The nerf to Plasma Moritats was needed, tbh. Amen to that, and I just asked for a third Apoth to be purchased for general festivities... I had planned to make him a Primus. Mind you, we still aren't suffering for lack of HQ choices. Just means we can't have the Medic lead the party. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3877150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I guess you'll just to have to fix this with the XIth legion, Slipstreams. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3877164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Except if you get immobilised, pre faq you were rendered useless against most things. Certainly is one aspect that I hadn't considered, but in the current meta of killing things via hull point stripping, you usually don't have time to accumulate a lot of damage table results. So, minor change for immobilized dreads - otherwise, Mortis remains significantly nerfed from its heyday. Grav guns are pretty prevalent in my area, auto immobilised on a six is pretty lame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3877189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonite Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Heh, best/worst part about this? I might end up changing Legion choices out of this. Primus Medicae + Lightning Claw on a Jetbike (sort of going for a similar mad doctor look) was my idea at first, going Night Lords. Now that he's not going to be the focus in most games, well, plans arre starting to form to go with one fast force or the other... Or Iron Hands. They're pretty much unchanged so far bar maybe the Master of the Signal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299888-7th-ed-faq/#findComment-3877220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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