MisterDutch Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 So, it seems likely that space marine-models are going to be switched onto 32mm bases over time. Whether or not that is actually going to happen is not the point of this topic, nor whether it's a good move or not. I am simply interested in the question: how to un-base my marines without damaging them? I have tried it it the past, with varying results. What I did was get a hobby knife under the foot and then try to pry / cut the bottom of the foot, off the base. However as I use plastic glue to assemble my models, this can be very difficult. As you might know, plastic glue melts the two surfaces together. Basically, cutting my own fingers with the hobby knife can be difficult to avoid and damaging the mini is even harder to avoid. I now have several space marines who miss their toes or in any case are hard(er) to glue back on a flat surface because their bottom of the feet are no longer a flat surface. Is this really the only way to go about this thing or am I somehow missing something. If anyone could give insightful or genius ideas, please share them! After all, some of us might have to do this for many, many models in the coming weeks ... (if we want to) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 As far as I am aware, if you used plastic glue, the model and the base are effectively one model due to the glue "melding" the parts together. So it would seem that cutting is the only way. If you'd used superglue, you can use extreme temperatures to break the bonds, such as freezing it or dropping the model in hot water for short periods of time. Dallo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspecti Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Cut around the foot, through the base, instead of trying to cut/pry under the foot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 That's not a bad shout, if you don't care about keeping the bases intact. In that case, you can just take a pair of clippers to he base, utterly destroy it, and leave you with an untouched model. Dallo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDutch Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 That... is actually not a bad idea. It would leave me with an intact marine with small bits of base stuck to it's feet. Do you think those will be easier to remove then? I guess it might be... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 That... is actually not a bad idea. It would leave me with an intact marine with small bits of base stuck to it's feet. Do you think those will be easier to remove then? I guess it might be... I mean... if you used plastic glue and they're now one piece, wouldn't it be easiest to cut the base away, then file the foot down to its former dimensions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whilst I realise the writing may be on the wall to some, I would really strongly recommend waiting a little while to see if there's at least an announcement in WD made about the base sizes before hacking up your minis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whilst I realise the writing may be on the wall to some, I would really strongly recommend waiting a little while to see if there's at least an announcement in WD made about the base sizes before hacking up your minis. Definitely. Could always taper the bases to fit onto the 32mm ones, depending on the lip size. Might make them look bigger! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whilst I realise the writing may be on the wall to some, I would really strongly recommend waiting a little while to see if there's at least an announcement in WD made about the base sizes before hacking up your minis. I agree. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Cut the edge of the base off so its a flat disc, stick to new one. By the time you glue your basing materials around the edge of the new one no body will be any wiser. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Cut the edge of the base off so its a flat disc, stick to new one. By the time you glue your basing materials around the edge of the new one no body will be any wiser. Sneaky. I like that. I did something similar and then added sand then painted and it came together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Un-base this model! Tell me it's 32mm... Un-base this model, this sand, this tiny plastic man And get out of my de-e-en... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Might keep to the smaller bases, so my guys can sing 'Here I stand and here I'll stay' or I could knock on the drawer they live in and ask 'Do you want a bigger base man??' Still cant get the Frozen songs out of my head :'( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury_of_Fenris Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I rebased mine on flat renedra 25mm's I just basically snapped/tore them off. They mostly come off but usually it tears around the foot i then just cut the excess off It's alot easier as you can cleary see where your cutting then if it's a bit wonky or not even ( i hacked mine like an enraged chimpanze ) i just filed them flat Although in hindsight id say it's probably better to superglue them as they'd snap off much easier Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3876979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awilden Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Went through a whole death company squad rebasing them (didn’t like the way i had based it), was a nightmare, had to do what several of the people in this thread did, and cut around the feet through the base, and yes your right it will leave a section of the base under the feet, unless you’re lucky and can cleanly slice it off without cutting deep into your finger, which i wasn’t so lucky and thought screw it and didn’t try that again lol. *handy reminder brand new scalpel blades used with heavy force next to fingers is a bad idea lol* i don’t think it matters as much if you have the plastic from the base under the feet, if you then plastic glue it to the new base after, it should melt together reasonably, also if you cut it so it’s basically boot shaped and can’t see the black from looking, the marines basically just got a millimetre or so taller lol, and if your basing with sand or using mud/water effects, i doubt it would be noticeable, only if you’re leaving the bases unpainted, then it may look a little wonky unless it somehow dissolves/melts into the base when you plastic glue it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3877016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Supposedly, someone emailed GW and they had this to say on the subject, although obviously it's just reported speech. http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/games-workshop-answers-rebasing-issue.html Supports the idea that it'd be a good idea to wait, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3877132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDutch Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whilst I realise the writing may be on the wall to some, I would really strongly recommend waiting a little while to see if there's at least an announcement in WD made about the base sizes before hacking up your minis. Definately agree on that one. Like I said in my opening post, I was just asking for advice for that time when I do need/want to un-base the models :) Cut the edge of the base off so its a flat disc, stick to new one. By the time you glue your basing materials around the edge of the new one no body will be any wiser. Ooh nice one... sounds genius! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3877153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashaTheDog Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A guy I met years ago talked about how he "upgraded" his exceedingly detailed 25mm bases of his Terminators to 40mm. He said he made a small hinged mold and poured resin very carefully into it around the base. It let him position the Terminator around the new base but gave him uniform and clean base lines. All he had to do was clean the edges and expand the details on the existing base. A matter of disclosure; he only had a small number of Terminators, about two dozen or so models, but the idea up rebasing to a larger size is sound if you have the patience for the setup, although for the 32mm upgrade, one of those oral syringes with the curved tip may be needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3878661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It may also be possible to use plastic glue under neath the feet and then melt off/wipe off the base from the feet. Just be careful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3878780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 When they changed the wraithguard base size I just made a mold of the bigger base and glued the 25's on top. This worked great in the fact that it made the old metal stand as tall as the new plastics. As for termies, the ones I had to change were metal so popped off the 25's easy. But as it has been stated in most rule books, I haven't checked this new one, but whatever base your models came with are always legal and can be changed at your discretion. Also, doing what everyone says about cutting around the feet, remember that a drymel with a sanding disc can also help with the clean up. Carefully tho to not get the plastic to hot where it melts. Again, wait til it is announced before going nuts on your models if they say it is needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299897-how-to-un-base-my-models/#findComment-3879092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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