Zynk Kaladin Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Well, termies don't need a sang priest to get furious charge anymore. A squad of 4 hammers with a lightning claw sergeant for challenges is even more deadly on the charge than our vanilla brothers and we don't have to pay the SP tax anymore. I'm still undecided. Maybe I'll pick up a squad if the landraider or stormraven rules work well for them, but right now I'm concerned with making more DC and SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phadeout Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Probably a couple of boxes in time, been working on my first co for a while now, this will take me to 45 hmm maybe I should push it to three boxes to make an even fifty... Never going to be in the black again ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 The good thing about FC army wide is...you get S10 weapons with PFs and THs. That's mighty fine when you're tackling those eldar walkers or even that Landraider that has, for some reason, decided to not die to your melta shots. And damn, I've been there. Snorri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phadeout Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Is that something new in seventh? I thought it was x2 then +1 so nine rather than ten. Still good but doesn't double out t5 models and all the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Sorry but what new termies??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Is that something new in seventh? I thought it was x2 then +1 so nine rather than ten. Still good but doesn't double out t5 models and all the rest. That's what I thought as well...but under the entry for weapons like thunderhammers and powerfists it says "strength x2" and FC adds to the strength value. To me, that means add FC and double the strength afterwards. Snorri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I may be mistaken, but I believe the rulebook states the order of operations for characteristic modifications is multiplication first, then addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Base strength multiplication then addition, like in normal math operations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I may be mistaken, but I believe the rulebook states the order of operations for characteristic modifications is multiplication first, then addition. That is true, pg. 8. And here I thought I found an oversight. Sorry for the inconvenience, everyone. Snorri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I will probably get them once I see the kit, what options it can make and any special rules. Regardless it looks amazing. But I will probably wait until I make a 10 man DC squad with bolters and jump packs with the new codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 The only exception I know of to the multiply then +1 is Thunderwolves for Space Wolves. It would be awesome if it changes for us but it seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 S9 PF and Thammers are still incredibly good. For example, a charging DC marine with a power fist is essentially 4 lascannons. Despite it being the logical thing for GW to do I'm slightly disappointed DC lost WS5, but easier access to jump packs really makes up for it. For now it's all just a waiting game until the codex is in our talons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 S9 PF and Thammers are still incredibly good. For example, a charging DC marine with a power fist is essentially 4 lascannons. Despite it being the logical thing for GW to do I'm slightly disappointed DC lost WS5, but easier access to jump packs really makes up for it. For now it's all just a waiting game until the codex is in our talons. Who knows, maybe they will get WS5 on the charge, or part of a formation, or in a supplemant if we get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I will be buying a box or 2 for bits alone... Really looking forward to seeing some closer up shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I already have more Termis than I can actually play with, but I'm still liking the sculpts. I'm thinking between the leftover bits from Strike Force Ultra, Deathstorm and the new kit, I'll probably bash up some squad leaders or end up using them as is to make a command squad to supplement the DV Termi command squad I did. I badly wanna play around with the new bits :) I just know I want more TDA Chaplains, I probably won't buy the new Libby unless I can figure out what other sculpt I can use to make a Chappy (Cap'n Karl will be receiving a head transplant along with a new crozius) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yes. Even though I have: 20x AoBR termies 15x DV termies 12 Space Hulk termies 10 x 2nd ed termies. 5x Deathstorm termies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 My wife and I just made the decision to dip into our savings to do a budget reset - we both let our spending get a little bit away from us - so... yes. Definitely. Probably soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 No. Why? Because I already have 5 2e terminators painted, and I have yet to paint my: AOBR Terminators (5), Dark Vengeance Terminators (5), Space Hulk Terminators (5). I will have more than enough by then. Depending on their options (i.e. Terminator HG loadouts, options, etc.) I may end up converting the DV terminators to one of the new units, though. They will require some heavy feather plucking anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 So I personally have 8x 3rd edition tactical termies and a 4x squad of assault termies. I was going to sell off my Deathstorm termies but given that the new kit has both assault and range option, I am now reconsidering. Don't know yet if I want the new kit to be assault or tactical loadout until I see the codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Nope. Purely for monetary reasons. I've got the Deathstorm box incoming plus I've got 2 unbuilt squads of Tartaros terminators, not to mention 15 built but unpainted terminators of various flavors. If I get any more terminators, it'll be a squad of Cataphractii...because want their armored menace in my army. I don't need the bling parts and, frankly, they've got no part, aesthetically speaking, in my Flesh Tearers army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Base strength multiplication then addition, like in normal math operations... Except that 40k is explicitly defined as the exact opposite. The design studio fails not only at statistics, but at basic arithmatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calnus Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'm going to get them, probably, after the codex hits. Seeing that banner makes me think either new option or new squad, and perhaps being able to take a command squad of terminators without using those precious Elite slots in the FoC? Though now I'm going to have to look into buying Land Raiders, as I only have 2 Stormravens, and thats not enough to carry my current 15 termies, let alone another 5. Has anyone seen the rumored warlord trait that deduces deep strike scatter? With it being a warlord trait, perhaps it will work on units that don't have jump packs too, like Terminators and Land Raiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduke08 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Im hoping that wings applies to the unit, if so im going to throw in a Libby and have some "Jump" termies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girot Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Definitely getting a box of these. Will also ebay enough shoulder pads to outfit the rest of 1st company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caine 24th Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'll wait for now. You never know, with a few rules modifications and/or price changes these terminators could be an interesting choice on the field. I see one is modeled with a banner, and if the points are right it could be a great bonus. There could be some great synergy with the new priest too. At the same time I've had concerns about delivery of terminators for a long time, with deep strike generally being inaccurate and land raiders getting very pricey. That being said I love terminators but I have enough of them until I see the new rules. I do like the bits though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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