Amarog Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 The good news is Mr tax man has said he owes me some money, a good amount to get a fair few units extra.so I shall read through all this again and see what seems to pop up most etc :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z00Z Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The Emperor Protects....and provides! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 and then alpha strike them (using the drop pod assault rule to allow them to turn up on turn one), There's still an outstanding question on whether this is allowed or not. Some of us have written to GW to answer the question in a FAQ. The issue being that you never need to make a reserve roll for a DP entering turn 1. The formation however states that on a successful reserve roll, they both come in. I guess in order to not have a lengthy debate with your opponent, it might be a better idea to bring this formation in after turn 1. Ok, fair one. I kinda just assumed that the roll would take affect if you decided not to have them come in on turn one. I'll hold off with model building then.haha. I hope it is aloud. That would be a serious alpha strike! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z00Z Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 the completion(ist) in me will have me building every unit and formation (including council) just for the fun of it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wish I could do that, but the sensible part of me (my fiancée) says I have a house and a wedding to save up for.haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 i know that feeling. i'd love to be able to buy everything, but unfortunately there are other companies that want to take all my money before GW / FW take it. >< However warriors of the fang box set and the paint bundle are on my agenda + a standard tactical marine unit box. should kick things off nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wish I could just buy loadsa stuff too but I already have about 3000 points of wolves, so I get disapproving looks when I buy anything.haha. The last thing I bought was the Stormclaw box and that definatly landed me in trouble. (I did kinda just buy it cuz I love the Krom model!haha. He is the only thing out of the box I have painted and put together so fair.) The issue I have is that I built my army when I was much younger and bought things that looked cool but don't really fit my style of play. So I'm now trying to rectify it and build an army that plays well without spending huge amounts of cash. I'm not sure what I will get next, possibly some more Skyclaws, they work really well for me and having 10 of them and a wolf priest running around cutting units to pieces would be great. Although i have a brain itch that's making me want to build some deathwatch marines so I'm tempted with a tactical box and some bits out of other chapter kits to flavour the models with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 sounds like a plan. haha the disapproving look ... seen it many a time. maybe thats what makes it worse, the fact that all you painted was krom and nothing else lol. is it only a maximum of like, e.g. 2 flamers per unit. or is it 2 flamers per 5 models? cause obviously the standard unit is 5 guys, and it just says a maximum of 2 men in the unit can take .. blah blah blah? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I know, I will get round to building the rest, but it need to decide how to build them first. I'm not going to bother with the suggested stormclaw units as I will never play the campaign and the formation is a bit immobile for regular games. I need to work out if I want another GH unit or if I want to make a wolf guard thunder strike formation. I am also tempted to start an Ork hoard with the orks from stormclaw. There is nothing quite like throwing 100s of bodies and units of stompy dreads across the board at a bewildered looking marine player who has 30 marines and a couple tanks. I played as orks before I started my wolves army. As for the Skyclaws you only get the 2 flames per unit unfortunately, no matter the size. I suppose you could run two smaller units and give them both 2 flamers, then just move them around together. The only issue with it is that you can only join your wolf priest to one unit so half of them would miss out on his preferred enemy. Unless you had two wolf priests I suppose. Also it would take up two of you fast attack slots. My fiancée is very understanding really, she bought me a whirlwind last year for Xmas, thats still only half painted too! She even tries to talk to me about 40k sometimes. She soon glazes over and is clearly not interested in the slightest, but at least she tries!haha. This might be my other problem, I get distracted by new shiny things before I finish the last unit I bought. I have more than a few half finished projects! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 also a very valid point. new shiny things are the bane of our existence. It's a naughty trick!! And i think if a girl ever actually tried to engage me in conversation about the hobby ... after being silently stunned for a few minutes ... i'd probably marry her. thats how i roll! yea i guess 2 units could work, but like you said it'd be handy to have a priest in each, although i find a unit of 5 a piece wouldn't last too long. I mean they could keep close around the table but i always find smaller units of them die off fast. I'd probably run maybe 6/7 and then a priest with them. beef the squad up a little bit, extra bodies for combat and such, especially as in recent games ive found a unit of 10 becomes a prime target. It's almost like people dont want them to get up in their face or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yea, they do get a lot of attention but when they hit they do some damage! I duno know if I could run units of 6 or 7, the brain itch would get angry because it would feel incomplete. That's why I'm thinking alpha strike GH with CCWs and meltas and deathwind pod then the Skyclaws will either get ignored for a bit, or have some back up when they hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Or I may give up and get some TWC. Skyclaws are good, but they lack the survivability of the TWC, with their access to SS and their toughness 5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORKILL Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Just about everything in the game lacks TWC survivability. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3884685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It is less the survivability of TWC, which is fine. It is more the abundance of S7 spam, that ignores their T5. They do just fine with a decent character up front and some distractions or psychic support if you so desire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think the main thing I'm worried about is the fact that there is so much detail on sw models, and I'm worried my painting will let it down. I've watched a load of painting tutorials etc which has helped me see the best way to go about it. However I like to get things done so I will have to limit myself and take my time lol. I'm used to standard marines with very little in the way of details (like pelts, chains, iconography etc). Which I why for models like the TWC I may hold off until I'm more confident with my painting. Well, I suppose I can still get them and run them unpainted but that just looks lame lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benane Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I know that feeling. And i didn't even paint any miniatures before. Just work slowly and clean up your mistakes. Keep the paint thin! TWC don't have more details on them than regular GH imo and the wolves are even easier to paint detailwise. allthough it takes some practice to get the fur right, but once you have your scheme, it's pretty easy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 once i get things flowing i'll post some wip pics in here. still only got a unit of GH with WGPL and a unit of fen wolves >< still, can have a nice 400pt game with them haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 once i get things flowing i'll post some wip pics in here. still only got a unit of GH with WGPL and a unit of fen wolves >< still, can have a nice 400pt game with them haha Everyone starts small. A year from now people will tremble at the sight of your force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I tremble at the sight of his face!Buy a Stormwolf - you know you want to! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'm sure you will do fine. After a unit GHs you will have the hang of SWs. There are some awesome models I have seen on here, so if there is anything you are unsure of I'm sure you could ask for tips. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I tremble at the sight of his face! Buy a Stormwolf - you know you want to! haha cheers la .... <_< i actually do want to, just the one, for funsies. and yea i'll definitely be on here regularly looking for tips and tricks on making my wolves a formidable force! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yea,that's my plan, stay on here and pick up tips and stuff. A stormwolf is on my wish list too, mainly for air support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3885464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 What I have so far then. Unit GH with WGPL. One standard bike with a couple of bits added on. And wolves. Roll on pay day lol http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/lelltomgeorge/Mobile%20Uploads/20141211_101419_zpsd7paksv1.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/lelltomgeorge/Mobile%20Uploads/20141211_101447_zpsetej65sx.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3886608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benane Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 they look nice. especially like the stone on the biker base. what i like to do is drill out the bolter barrels with a 1mm drill bit and watch out for those mold lines (especially the front fender of the bike). keep going! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3886684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yea I always ponder that but for me, I don't have many of the tools yet either so hopefully Santa will be good to me this year haha. I'd defiantly drill the gun barrels but I've never really bothered much about mould lines. Might sort them with these though as I want this to be a decent looking army. (if I have it in my capability to do a decent looking army haha) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300128-creating-my-army/page/2/#findComment-3886724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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