Stormwolf conversions

[Chaplain Otho]

I really like the Stormwolf rules and I really want a flyer in my army but I don't like the model.

I really like the storm raven though.

Has anyone done any conversiosn or kit bashes to convert their storm wolf that I could look at for inspiration. I don't want to simply paint a storm raven grey although I could and just use the stormwolf rules.

[Z00Z]

I think the purists might not appreciate this though. The weapon loadout and angles available are very different between both models

[Donkalleone]

Yeah, it might be a big issue even in a friendly game. The Weapon position are very different , while you could argue that the weapons in both flyers are relatively close the LoS issue is not a small one. I thought about it too but a Stormwolf isnt common so u would need a reference model and that no small money.

[Ulrik_Ironfist]

I had the Idea to use a stormraven as a counts as stormwolf, but, in the end, decided to just put my two stormtalons with it and run the storm wing, since running the storm wing the way I would is the same points as running the two SW fliers the way I would.

 

That said, Ignore the Stormwolf, and do a conversion on the stormraven to make it look more like a storm eagle, and boom, there you go. You get a better looking flier, you're still bound, and you can put a 10 man unit of TDAWG in it.

 

Also, the storm eagle is 225pts as is, only 10 more pts than the stormwolf, and 10 less than the way I take my stormfang.

 

Problem solved, problem staying solved. 

[Lord Blackwood]

I had the Idea to use a stormraven as a counts as stormwolf, but, in the end, decided to just put my two stormtalons with it and run the storm wing, since running the storm wing the way I would is the same points as running the two SW fliers the way I would.

 

That said, Ignore the Stormwolf, and do a conversion on the stormraven to make it look more like a storm eagle, and boom, there you go. You get a better looking flier, you're still bound, and you can put a 10 man unit of TDAWG in it.

 

Also, the storm eagle is 225pts as is, only 10 more pts than the stormwolf, and 10 less than the way I take my stormfang.

 

Problem solved, problem staying solved. 

storm eagle 150 dollar forgeworld model  ,   stormwolf 81 dollar games workshop ( dosent have to travel overseas ) model 

 

what solves yer problem aint always  gonna solve someone elses 

 

maybe homeboy dosent want to drop that sort of cash  to get a storm eagle  maybe he dosent have that sort of cash 

 

That being said I dunno how you would be able to pull off a conversion friend , the models are just  so insanely different.  

[Ulrik_Ironfist]

I've actually seen a few conversions of the stormraven into something very much like the storm eagle. Also, I said it'd be a conversion, so depending on skill it can be done. 

 

I never told him to buy a storm eagle, because $81 for the stormraven is already steep. 

 

Obviously, you come up with the answer that meets your situation. 

 

Not trying to be a Jerk. Just presenting alternatives. I'd love to see either a stormraven converted to a stormwolf stand in, or a storm eagle stand in, as I think both would be interesting projects.

 

I apologize if I  came off like an a**.

[Reichfaust]

Otho, I was in a similar position as you when the new Codex dropped. Loved the rules and idea of the Stormwolf, but the model wasn't quite doing it for me. I made some relatively minor changes to my pair of Stormwolves and I think it made a big difference to how the model looks (sorry for the potato quality image, it's all I have at the moment)

 

http://i.imgur.com/l4GEeQG.jpg

 

What I did was omit the tiny front wings/fins, switch the main wings for a pair of down-swept Storm Raven wings and affixed the Lascannons to them, and made an armoured canopy in the style of the Assault Ram. Now the model feels like a mini-Caestus, which is great because I love that model--one day I hope to have one flanked by my pair of Stormwolves; now that would be a fearsome combat wing! Hope this gives you some inspiration!

[Captain Coolpants]

Looks waaaay better with the stormraven wings. What does the rear look like?

[Yoyo ninja]

I would like a stormwolf but I think the wings look a bit small. When I eventually get around to buying one I plan building some bigger wings that look similar to the rear wings on the thunderhawk, then making some smaller versions to fit on the front.

 

I really like the armoured canopy on that Reichfaust, I may copy that idea if you don't mind?

[Amarog]

I definately think they'd suit larger wings. both sets. Possibly the back ones remaining the same sides, but the teeny ones at the front could definately do well from some bulking up tbh. other than that i dont mind the model too much.

[gwarsh41]

Oh man, that armored cockpit looks amazing!

[Yoyo ninja]

My other complaint is a lack detail to make it stand out as a wolf flyer (I know its a flyer unique to the wolves, but nothing about screams fenris to me). I think I want intricate knot work designs on the hull plating and shields and wolf pelts and stuff like that. I guess I'll have to add all that too.

 

But yea, on the while I like the model, just needs some additions.

[Ulrik_Ironfist]

There are a few celtic knots on the model, notably on the Helfrost turret and canards, as well as the ventral fin. At least on the stock un-modded model. Also, the kit comes with some sheilds and chains with pelts and talisman to really wolf it up.

 

I actually had an idea to model a dragon's head onto the front, like a viking longship, and put a railing along the top deck with some shields, and magnetize it a little so my Magnetized Logan Grimnar can stand upon the Bow urging his men forward. Since that would have screamed viking to me. Still might do that, just for fun. 

[Chaplain Otho]

Cheers guys think I'll just buy a stormwolf .

My gaming group is more relaxed about counts as but id need a stormwolf for any tourneys.I like the storm eagle too but think I'll stick with the stormwolf.

[tylerw]

I think the purists might not appreciate this though. The weapon loadout and angles available are very different between both models

 

I'm curious about this - as I understand it flyers are given a lot more leeway in terms of "can it shoot at x/y/z" - as long as you're pointed at something and it's not DIRECTLY under you, or entirely behind a wall, etc, aren't you going to probably be able to "see"/shoot at it with all 3 weapons?  Further, given the turrent on top and POTMS, it seems like you will get a pretty similar set of targets either way, and as a big flyer, you're not really changing your profile much either way, for defensive purposes, right?

 

I could be missing something, but it doesn't seem like there would be THAT much to complain about, compared to something like, "Yea, I'm running this much smaller Predator as my Land Raider proxy, and it is getting much better cover as a result."

[Z00Z]

The rule book is quite clear on firing arcs measured from weapons. Firing arcs normally 45 degrees apply both on horizontal and vertical planes. The loadout and weapon positioning on the flyers are very different between both flyers. The stormgrrr additionaly has the rear mounted turret which is capable of firing backwards. The sponsoons are also mounted further back on the model. The ravens underwing missiles are also much further apart than the stormgrrr. Granted, dependent on who you play with this might not be an issue, but I wouldnt bet my house on it never being an issue.

[Donkalleone]

for mostly the weapons of a flyer are considered to hit evrything withing the horizontal arcs. You would have to actually manage to find someone to argue on the vertical one and even then quickly grab a 3rd person and you dont have a discussion.

 

The Problem with a Stormwolf vs Stormraven as an alternative is the positionig of the weapons. Stormraven they are on the front and on the Stormwolf on the back this is a big LoS and cover issue since the front really sticks out.

 

Side note the Stormwolf/fang is modelled after a wolf head with big front representing the jaws. Cant imagine a wolfier flyer.

[Lucien Eilam]

I'm curious about this - as I understand it flyers are given a lot more leeway in terms of "can it shoot at x/y/z" - as long as you're pointed at something and it's not DIRECTLY under you, or entirely behind a wall, etc, aren't you going to probably be able to "see"/shoot at it with all 3 weapons?  Further, given the turrent on top and POTMS, it seems like you will get a pretty similar set of targets either way, and as a big flyer, you're not really changing your profile much either way, for defensive purposes, right?

Depends on the gun. Both flyers have access to multi-meltas, for example, where 12" is the key range. Huge difference mounting it on the nose (or even replacing the doors) versus a rear-mounted sponson.

[Ulrik_Ironfist]

The Stormwolf is a good flier, I wouldn't have bought one had it been junk (learned that lesson with my Nephilim). It's a good transport, and it's a good gunship, but you have to pick a role you want to use it for in your list, and either way, it's over costed for the role you pick. Now, if you bring it on zooming, put it kinda where you want it, and drop it to hover the next turn and then use it like a skimmer, it becomes a heck of a lot more effective, since you don't have to worry about it falling out of the sky, and keeping it in a position to keep firing and killing things, also being able to face it any direction after movement is fun too.

 

The Stormraven and stormtalons are the same in this respect. And it cuts down on complaints, since opponents don't have to deal with it like it was zooming, thus making your gaming experience more pleasant.