Morticon Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Its still early, and the info isnt fully out yet- but that doesnt stop thinking, speculation and brain-storming. (especially not if we have the SM dex to work costs off of) I will DEFINITELY have a return to jump pack marines (ironically, since people are crying about invalidated jump armies) and I think they have more potential now than before. This is what i've thrown together at 1850 (just off top of my head). Libby - lvl2, JP Relic Corbulo 8x Sang Guard - Fist, IP 8x DC - Fist, JP 10x TAC - HF, MG, P.Sword (yay return of the humble sword!) and Vet. Rhino 5x TAC - Grav Razor - Las/Plas 5x TAC - Grav Razor - Las/Plas 10x ASM - 2MG, Fist, Vet10x ASM - 2MG, Swd or Claw, Vet 2x Attack Bikes - MMSOOOO much stuff and new stuff.. GWAAARRR *drools* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Nothing too specific right now. But SG and DC are definitely making a return after being put on the back-burners for the last few months. Tomorrow should be interesting because I'll be fielding Dante and my 2 squads of SG for one last hurrah. Unless, of course, the codex is there waiting for me. At which point, I don't know if I'll be able to get a game in with all of the reading I'll be doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I LOVE that this list has 60 marines - considering my current list has 19 :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That's the beauty of the update. Even without all of the new relics/warlord traits/shiny, we knew the prices would be fixed. That tax has costed me a game and I won't be sad to see it go. I know the first new BA list will have a Priest in the lead. Gonna include some TAC squads to test out this newfangled grab gun I've heard so much about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Actually has 62 . I'm gonna run 9 Sanguard Dante and a Priest maybe with a Librarian to cast quickening for the *DANTESTAR!* (cue dramatic music) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverson Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 A nice death company list could be Hq- astorath Troops- Cassor the damned, squad Raphen Elites - 1 squad of death company in a land raider, 3 squads of death company with jump packs Fast attack - drop pod for Cassor ( don't think you can add dedicated transport for him because of his data sheet doesn't give the option?) Add the rest as you see it but we actually have a death company battle forged army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 For the 10 man tac, I'd go aaaaaaall flamer! If I was playing any eldar or men, bop a flame pistol on them to! I wonder if the assault sgt will still have the option to be a gunslinger.. Probably not, but would be pretty cool! I'm jut happy I can unbox them again, and adapt all my wonderfully painted guys with extra ba bling! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 For the new detachment: (roughly 1750) Still not sure, but something along this line 3 x 10DC JP and one fist in each 1 x 5 man bike squad with 2 gravs (perhaps a combi grav on sarge) 1 x 2 MM attack bike 2 x 5 Tacticals one LC in each 1 x Libby Dread ML1 1 x Stormraven (Libby dread attached) 1 x Libby ML2, JP, Powersword 1 x Rifledread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hm. Has the DC unit restriction been lifted? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverson Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hm. Has the DC unit restriction been lifted?No that I know off but I was told in the deathstorm supplement Cassor and Raphen are troops choices? (I'm currently away so haven't opened my box yet) Edit: oh you mean max 1 unit? I actually have no idea about that :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Remtek indirectly reminded me of that, and it occurred to me that we haven't heard anything about that restriction in the rumor thread. Actually, are there any unit restrictions for whole armies now? Or would it be a restriction just for a detachment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 No idea yet, i'm just being optimistic! But since they moved to Elite i'm hoping it has. Edit: With the latest rumors that kicked in i have no idea, so many fun choices! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 What i'm currently thinking Astorath (with DC) Sang Priest w/ JP (with SG) 10x Sang Guard 15x DC w/ JP 5x Scouts 5x Scouts 3x Bikes w/ 2x Grav 3x Bikes w/ 2x Grav 3x Bikes w/ 2x Grav 5x ASM w/ 2x Inferno, 2x Melta, Pod 5x ASM w/ 2x Inferno, 2x Melta, Pod Is very roughly 1500 Mostly MSU, but with two blocks of punchy stuff Edit -Just realised I've gone over my FA slots - that's what you get when your used to ASM being troops. Interesting that I'm over on Fast slots, rather than elites. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That's disturbingly similar to my currently-planned list, although I'm thinking of just rolling with one ASM squad but with unit of Bikes. Similar purpose though; melta, high speed, and not terrible if needed in a fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Love that list idea Morticon. I can see fielding something very similar (I had just been considering 5 man tacs in razors just replacing the 5 man RAS razors). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I want to field a company! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Now I don't know what I want to field. So many juicy possibilities. I need to try them all out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother apocalyptic Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Im still thinking in the way of: Furioso librarianCorbulo 5 Hammernators 10 JP DC 2 * 10 Tacticals (loadout as one see fit) 2 MM attackbikes 2 * 10 Assault marines (2 melta, 2 grav/inferno) 1 stormraven 1 LR 1 predator If points allow, add in some scouts and sanguinary guards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 My first list will definitely have DC and SG in it. Only question with the DC is jumpy or riding a land raider. Beyond that, Not sure. Thinking 2 tacs in Rhinos, Dante, Libby or priest, attack bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 My first list will definitely have DC and SG in it. Only question with the DC is jumpy or riding a land raider. Beyond that, Not sure. Thinking 2 tacs in Rhinos, Dante, Libby or priest, attack bikes. Jump. Beacuse you're always going to want Astorath if you're running 10-15 DC in a slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Thinking about something like this for 1250. I'll miss the MM attack bikes, but the assault marine drop help with anti armor. Scouts close combat 55 Tactical with LC 90 DC 15 JP 2 fist 395 Rifledread 120 Bikesquad with 2 Grav 135 Fragioso with Pod 165 ASM 4melta with POD 135 Astorath the grim 155 1250 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 My first list will definitely have DC and SG in it. Only question with the DC is jumpy or riding a land raider. Beyond that, Not sure. Thinking 2 tacs in Rhinos, Dante, Libby or priest, attack bikes. Jump. Beacuse you're always going to want Astorath if you're running 10-15 DC in a slot. Probably a good call, and I like my Astorath model (removed the big wings jump pack and he has a FW old style jump pack and replaced the axe with a sword). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverson Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Thinking about something like this for 1250. I'll miss the MM attack bikes, but the assault marine drop help with anti armor. Scouts close combat 55 Tactical with LC 90 DC 15 JP 2 fist 395 Rifledread 120 Bikesquad with 2 Grav 135 Fragioso with Pod 165 ASM 4melta with POD 135 Astorath the grim 155 1250 Astorath 155 points, couldn't ask for anything more in a the codex than this. (Maybe some decent fluff but who cares we got good rules) jo know tycho didn't get as good a role but putting him in a squad of death company in a land raider is something I will try just because I have always wanted to. Edit: messed that up a little then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Ironically on last Monday I ran Meph, corbs, Lib dred, Hammer nators, 2x full tact squads, in rhinos 7 man death co no jump pack Raven. Versus some brutal nids with new gribbles. No jumpers in sight. Tabled him, this is before new dex makes things cheaper/better Simply cannot wait it's killing me! Lol R Oh and for the record mort if you cast your mind back to my question on ravens versus flyrants, his must've been distracted at the thought of the shiny new codex. Lots of perils and grounding in front of meph... Oh the look on his face :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Here's two items that may be of interest: #1 - Take two squads of tactical marines. Put a heavy flamer and meltaguns in each and take a power sword on the sergeant. Now put both of these squads in drop pods. Take a squad of 9 DC with various power weapons and at least 1 fist/hammer the rest with bolters. Put Corbulo in this squad and in a drop pod. Have corbs squad and one of the tacs drop down first turn right next to your enemy and unleash hell. Next turn, try to drop in the third pod as fire support while Corbulo hops into the first tac squad and both them and the DC charge into a juicy unit. Profit. #2 Put Mephiston in a squad of assault terminators all with Th/SS. Put them in a redeemer or crusader of your choosing. Run straight into enemy's biggest, baddest unit. Have terminators soak up any ap2 hits while Mephy beats the ever living crap out of anything and kills off any faster units with 3+ saves. Laugh maniacally. Profit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300228-new-list-thoughts/#findComment-3885660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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