New BA Codex BET THREAD answers

[Morticon]

 1.  BA will have FC as a standard rule.  YES

2.  Dante will get EW. YES

3.  BA will get access to the Storm Talon. NO

4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. YES

5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. NO

6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. NO
7.  BA will get a previously unseen unit/model.  NO  

8.  BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. NO

9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. YES (need to confirm this)

10. Dante will still make SG troops. NO

11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. NO

12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. YES

13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. NO

14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. YES

15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. YES

16. DC generation method will change (again).  NO 

17.  There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. YES, YES, YES!!!!!

18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. YES

19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. NO

20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". NO

21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. NO (though uncanny how close this was!)

22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. YES

23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? YES

24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? YES

25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? NO

26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? YES

27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? NO

28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2?  NO

29. Will Sanguinor come down in points?  YES

30. Will Mephiston go up in points?          NO

31. Will Red Thirst change?                    YES

[Morticon]

My powers of prescience are definitely not up to Sanguinius standards!!! 

My original answers included

 

BOO -N -  1.  BA will have FC as a standard rule.  

BOO -N - 2.  Dante will get EW. 

BOO -Y - 3.  BA will get access to the Storm Talon. 

CHECK -Y - 4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. 

BOO -Y - 5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. 

CHECK -N - 6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. 
BOO -Y - 7.  BA will get a previously unseen unit/model.  

BOO -Y - 8.  BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. 

CHECK -Y - 9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. 

CHECK -Y - 10. Dante will still make SG troops. 

CHECK -N - 11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. 

CHECK -Y - 12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. 

BOO -Y - 13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. 

CHECK -Y - 14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. 

CHECK - Y - 15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. 

BOO  -Y - 16. DC generation method will change (again). 

CHECK - Y - 17. There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. 

CHECK - Y - 18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. 

CHECK -N- 19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. 

BOO -Y- 20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". 

CHECK -N - 21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. 

BOO -N - 22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. 

CHECK -Y - 23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? 

CHECK -Y - 24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? 

BOO  -Y- 25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? 

BOO -N - 26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? 

CHECK -N - 27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? 

CHECK -N - 28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2?  

CHECK  -Y - 29. Will Sanguinor come down in points? 

CHECK  -N - 30. Will Mephiston go up in points? 

CHECK   -Y - 31. Will Red Thirst change?             

 

 

19/31   - 61% 

[SonOfThunder]

17/31 myself :) ...reviewing my answers now I realize if the Ork and SW dex had been out before these questions were posted, I would've gotten several more right...Mentality change in 7th was difficult to predict!  ;)

[Silverson]

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1. BA will have FC as a standard rule. (Y/N). ............no

2. Dante will get EW. (Y/N).............yes

3. BA will get access to the Storm Talon. (Y/N)...........no

4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. (Y/N)..........yes

5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. (Y/N)..........no

6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. (Y/N)...............no

7. BA will get a previously unseen unit/model. (Y/N).............yes

8. BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. (Y/N)............no

9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. (Y/N).........yes

10. Dante will still make SG troops. (Y/N)...........yes

11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. (Y/N)..........yes

12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. (Y/N)..........yes

13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. (Y/N)..........no

14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. (Y/N)..........yes

15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. (Y/N)..........yes

16. DC generation method will change (again). (Y/N)...........no

17. There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. (Y/N)......no

18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. (Y/N)...........no

19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. (Y/N)...........no

20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". (Y/N)..........no

21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. (Y/N)..........no

22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. (Y/N).........no

23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? (Y/N).........no

24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? (Y/N).........no

25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? (Y/N).........yes

26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? (Y/N)...........no

27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? (Y/N).........yes

28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2? (Y/N).........no

29. Will Sanguinor come down in points? (Y/N).........yes

30. Will Mephiston go up in points? (Y/N).........no

31. Will Red Thirst change? (Y/N)..........yes

 

Got 19/31 also. Was looking good until I got to the 20s

[The Yncarne]

16/31

[knife&fork]

21 /31.

Let's just say that I'm very happy about being wrong about many of those things

[Blindhamster]

 

N 1. BA will have FC as a standard rule. (Y/N). wrong

 

N 2. Dante will get EW. (Y/N). wrong

 

N 3. BA will get access to the Storm Talon. (Y/N). correct

 

Y 4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. (Y/N). correct

 

N 5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. (Y/N). correct

 

N 6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. (Y/N). correct

Y 7. BA will get a previously unseen unit/model. (Y/N). wrong

 

N 8. BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. (Y/N). correct

 

N 9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. (Y/N) wrong

 

Y 10. Dante will still make SG troops. (Y/N). not sure? Mort said he got it right - correct

 

Y 11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. (Y/N). wrong

 

Y 12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. (Y/N). correct

 

N 13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. (Y/N). correct

 

N 14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. (Y/N). wrong

 

Y 15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. (Y/N). correct

 

Y 16. DC generation method will change (again). (Y/N). wrong

 

N 17. There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. (Y/N). wrong

 

N 18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. (Y/N). wrong

 

N 19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. (Y/N). correct

 

N 20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". (Y/N). correct

 

N 21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. (Y/N). correct

 

Y 22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. (Y/N). correct

 

Y 23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? (Y/N) correct

Y 24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? (Y/N) correct

Y 25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? (Y/N) wrong

Y 26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? (Y/N) correct

N 27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? (Y/N) correct

N 28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2? (Y/N). correct

Y 29. Will Sanguinor come down in points? (Y/N) correct

N 30. Will Mephiston go up in points? (Y/N) correct

Y 31. Will Red Thirst change? (Y/N). correct

 

 

 

21 new models does not a new unit make!

[Morticon]

No previously unseen units though! We've always had tactical and termy squads. 

[Blindhamster]

yeah but the question is pretty darn vague! new model/unit implies either or :P

was there confirmation that dante makes SG troops too? if not, you and I need to lose a point lol

[SonOfThunder]

BA will get a previously unseen unit/model

This, as with many other things in this hobby, is a matter of RAI vs RAW

Edit: No FOC swapping at all, Dante doesn't make SG troops.

[JamesI]

1.  BA will have FC as a standard rule.  No

 

2.  Dante will get EW. No

 

3.  BA will get access to the Storm Talon. Yes

 

4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. Yes

 

5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. Sortof (I think a character will give current Heroic Intervention but it may not be Dante and it likely will only be to one squad)

 

6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. No

7.  BA will get a previously unseen unit/model.  Yes

.

8.  BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. No

 

9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. Yes (I don't know if this is right or not)

 

10. Dante will still make SG troops. Yes

 

11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. Yes

 

12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. Yes

 

13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. No

 

14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. Yes

 

15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. Yes

 

16. DC generation method will change (again).  Yes

 

17.  There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. No

 

18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. Yes

 

19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. No

 

20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". No

 

21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. Yes

 

22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. No

 

23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? Yes

 

24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? No

 

25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? Yes

 

26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? Yes (I think he or Astorath will get this, more likley Dante)

 

27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? No

 

28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2?  No

 

29. Will Sanguinor come down in points? Yes

 

30. Will Mephiston go up in points? No

 

31. Will Red Thirst change? Yes.

 

17/31 not counting the Mastery Levels for Libby Dreads as I don't know.

[Jolemai]

There are supposedly two levels and it costs something like 25 points to upgrade. Could have sworn I read that on the *everything is awesome* thread.

[Valerian]

21 of 31 for me, too; we all would have done a lot better if the bet thread had been conducted after the first three 7e codices were released, rather than before the release of the actual new edition.  New paradigm for all codices was not anticipated well by any of us, I submit.

 

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[The Yncarne]

It is all In good fun.

[Emperors Immortals]

Some nice answers in there, and I won't be laughed at for taking tacs anymore :D

 

FC for army and IC on meph are pretty huge changes.

[Morticon]

8 responses so far! :P come on lads.  

[vahouth]

I got 20/31. Not bad...:)

No previously unseen units though! We've always had tactical and termy squads. 

I can't recall a SP model though, unless you count the HG novitiate.

[JamesI]

I got 20/31. Not bad...

No previously unseen units though! We've always had tactical and termy squads.

I can't recall a SP model though, unless you count the HG novitiate.

There was a Sanguinary Priest model when the 5th codex came out, I think it was online only.

[Midnightmare]

16/31 - I am quite glad I was wrong on a few of them tough so I will take that :D

[vahouth]

I got 20/31. Not bad...

No previously unseen units though! We've always had tactical and termy squads.

I can't recall a SP model though, unless you count the HG novitiate.

There was a Sanguinary Priest model when the 5th codex came out, I think it was online only.

Yeah, I don't count that because it is exactly the same model of an Apothecary from the Command Squad box.

[Jolemai]

1.  BA will have FC as a standard rule.  (Y).

 

2.  Dante will get EW. (N).

3.  BA will get access to the Storm Talon. (N).

4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. (Y).

5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. (N).

6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. (N).

7.  BA will get a previously unseen unit/model.  (Y).

8.  BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. (Y).

9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. (N)

10. Dante will still make SG troops. (Y).

11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. (Y).

12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. (N).

13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. (N).

14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. (Y).

15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. (Y).

16. DC generation method will change (again).  (Y).

17.  There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. (N).

18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. (N).

19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. (N).

20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". (N).

21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. (N).

22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. (N).

23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? (N)

24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? (N)

25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? (Y)

26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? (Y)

27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? (N)

28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2?  (N).

29. Will Sanguinor come down in points? (Y)

30. Will Mephiston go up in points? (N)

31. Will Red Thirst change? (Y).

 

 

18/31 or 58.1% correct. Urgh.

[Xenith]

Y 1.  BA will have FC as a standard rule.  (Y/N).

N 2.  Dante will get EW. (Y/N).
N 3.  BA will get access to the Storm Talon. (Y/N).
Y 4. BA will lose Heroic Intervention as it is now. (Y/N).
N 5. Dante will give Heroic intervention, as it is now, to all JP troops. (Y/N).
N 6. Sanguinary guard will get an Inv. save. (Y/N).
Y 7.  BA will get a previously unseen unit/model.  (Y/N).
N 8.  BA will get chapter tactics, with 2 general army rules. (Y/N).
N 9. Librarian Dreads may buy mastery levels. (Y/N)
Y 10. Dante will still make SG troops. (Y/N).
Y 11. We will keep Descent of Angels as is. (Y/N).
N 12. "Blender Claws" will lose their ability as is. (Y/N).
N 13. Frag Cannons will be available to more units than just the furioso. (Y/N).
N 14. We will have a BA psychic table that is random. (Y/N).
Y 15. We will get access to Artificer armour for characters. (Y/N).
N 16. DC generation method will change (again).  (Y/N).
N 17.  There will be an initiative boost for BA on the charge or nerf to enemies, reminiscent of old FC. (Y/N).
N 18. Fast vehicle will be an upgradeable option. (Y/N).
N 19. BA will be able to dismount and charge in the same turn. (Y/N).
Y 20. BA will be able to dismount when moving between 6~12". (Y/N).
N 21. BA will get a WS bonus on the charge. (Y/N).
N 22. Mephiston will be reduced in stats. (Y/N).
Y 23. Will DC Tycho will actually be able to join the DC? (Y/N)
N 24. Will Mephiston will be an IC? (Y/N)
Y 25. Will Assault Squads still be troops? (Y/N)
Y 26. Will Dante strike at his Initiative with AP2? (Y/N)
N 27. Will Mephiston be given access to an AP2 melee weapon? (Y/N)
N 28. Will Astorath strike at his Initiative with AP2?  (Y/N).
Y 29. Will Sanguinor come down in points? (Y/N)
N 30. Will Mephiston go up in points? (Y/N)
Y 31. Will Red Thirst change? (Y/N).

 

18/31

 

Not bad. Not good, but not bad.
 

I wanna double check 9 and 18 when the codex comes out though!

[Chaplain Admetus]

20 out of 31 for me, too! Looking forward to testing the new book!

 

(Also yes, I am still alive, thank you for asking :P )

[Morticon]

9 and 18 confirmed :) 

Preds, Whirls and Vindies upgradeable.  

 

Libby dread upgradeable. 

[Calnus]

Looks like I hit 18/31, about par for this course.  Although i might have been happier had *some* of my wishlisting come true, I think this will do just fine.