meniscusmike Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Hope is the first step to disappointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calnus Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If you can bring in reserves on turn 1 and charge on the turn you arrive, I'm buying it and taking it every damn game. Doesn't matter what else it is, even just having 3 SR fly in one turn 1, especially if you go first, will absolutely win you games all by itself. Now, where can I throw my money to get this right now?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'd surely take Corbulo too, just to re-roll that dice in case it's a 1 or 2. But three Stormraven Gunships and three full Tactical Squads is painful; that is already slightly above 1000 points and requires me to spend more cash than I have. They are really pushing those Tactical Marines and Vanguard Veterans, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 3 SRs and tactical squad with OS are nice but cost a lots of points and £s. You will still need your Detachment HQ and troops before you can include those DC or SG to assault with (unless we get some formations of just those). You are really going to need 2000+ points games to make it viable, otherwise the formation tax leaves you too few units to benefit from its special rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfThunder Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 No need for corbulo, the formation rerolls reserves. Crazy stuff. None of this is confirmed though, only blurry text and a vivid imagination ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 As awesome as it is that formations were opened up to standard games, they were originally intended for apocalypse. We shouldn't forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Hi guys, Here's what the formations say: Angel's wrath intervention force Formation: 1 vanguard veteran squad 2 Assault squads Restrictions: All models in this formation must be equipped with jump packs Special rules: Guided drop: This formation must be placed in deep strike reserve. Make a single reserve roll for the entire formation. If successful, all units arrive from the formation. The formations unit of vanguard veterans must be placed first and units of assault marines do not scatter so long as the first model is placed within 6" of the vanguard veterans unit. Meteoric impact: Immediately after deploying, any enemy units within 6" of any units from this formation suffer a strength 4 AP- hit for each of their models which is within 6" of a model from the formation. In addition, these enemy units must move as if they are in difficult terrain until the end of their next turn Angels fury spearhead force Formation: 3 tactical squads 3 stormraven gunships Restrictions: Each stormraven gunship must include10 models. The sergeant of each tactical squad in this formation must take a teleport homer as a free upgrade. This formations tactical squads cannot take dedicated transports and must begin the game embarked in the stormraven gunships from this formation. Special rules: Augur triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike reserve within 12" of at least two models from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives. Objective secured: All troops units from this formation have the objective secured special rule (see page blah blah) Spearhead strike force: When making reserve rolls make a single roll for the entire formation, which you can choose to re-reoll. If successful, all units arrive from the formation.You can make a reserve roll for this formation from the start of turn 1. Be excited!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 No need for corbulo, the formation rerolls reserves. Crazy stuff. None of this is confirmed though, only blurry text and a vivid imagination Yeah, just saw that.. If only I didn't hate the look of Stormraven Gunships, this Formation is REALLY awesome. As awesome as it is that formations were opened up to standard games, they were originally intended for apocalypse. We shouldn't forget that. That's the old style. Our "gigantic" formation is nearly 1337 points and the Flesh Tearer-VV one slightly above 500. I'm personally really happy with the 7th edition Formations and Detachments. It did not make any sense that every army in the galaxy was build up the same way. The obvious one is that Orks and Space Marine don't work the same, but the current implementations let us vary between Companies, Chapters and sub-Chapters. It makes your army feel more different than other armies, that's a really good thing. @Jimbo: I believe it are three Stormravens and Tactical squads and I think you need to be in range of TWO teleport homers. The charge in the same turn isn't confirmed, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Augur triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike within 12" of at least one model from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives. Does ANY deep striking unit get to charge without scatter, or deep striking units that TELEPORT... Seems tailor made to deliver your new $60 BA Assault Terminators into combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Think you're right. I can t make out whether it's 2 or 3 models in the formation but it seems to read xxx modelS on the auger triangulation suggesting more than one. Still damned good, just doesn't leave many points once you've bought the formation for the jump pack units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 At least 2 and 2 if you look at the picture Well, then, I'm only one raven short. This is the White Dwarf coming out this weekend, yes? As far as I can tell (I missed issue 46 and that was advertised as 13th Dec). I'll be getting it, even if I don't use said formations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Augur triangulation: If a friendly unit with the Blood angels faction arrives from deep strike within 12" of at least one model from the formation equipped with teleport homers then it does not scatter and can charge in the same turn it arrives. Does ANY deep striking unit get to charge without scatter, or deep striking units that TELEPORT... Seems tailor made to deliver your new $60 BA Assault Terminators into combat. Says any model from deep strike reserve so yep. Guess so. I've editied it to say two not one teleport homers btw to save confusion as I'm pretty convinced now that's what it says - thanks tsjben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascalnz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 it's definitely charge from assault!!! my god....... you might need to be in range of two homers but... that's crazy crazy good that could make the sanguinor worth it!!! or asault terms with lightning claws..... soo many more things.... all I have to do is paint up the three boxes of tacs I got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Wow, that is a really cool formation if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If this is true, then GW are really making an effort to make assault not just viable but truly competitive again :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 it's definitely charge from assault!!! my god....... you might need to be in range of two homers but... that's crazy crazy good Every day I log into the B&C and I make my way to the BA forum. I sit down and have a look at the topics. Then there is some new hype info that requires me to purchase even more things. So far through Hype I have purchased: -SG Edition Codex -Datacards -A Regular Edition Codex because my SG has some major delivery issues -Exterminatus Hard Back -Heavily considering buying Deathstorm because of the amount of models for the price -Now I need 3 Storm Ravens Curse you beautiful angelic brothers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascalnz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 sorry more thoughts.. they might just be tacticals. but you could put corbulo in one and have the sangunior arrive turn two to give 2 charging tac squads ws5 str5 ini5 and three attacks on the charge. you could have cassor the damned and rafens squad as your troops choices, rafens squad being godly if they can assault off the deep strike and cassor just being on board. it's all a little tight on points but turn one rerolled arrive from reserves for ravens is soo damn sweet or you could just blend it with the elites detachment and have atone of termies arrive and assault oh goodness would it work with dreadnoughts in drop pods???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaweda Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 it's definitely charge from assault!!! my god....... you might need to be in range of two homers but... that's crazy crazy good Every day I log into the B&C and I make my way to the BA forum. I sit down and have a look at the topics. Then there is some new hype info that requires me to purchase even more things. So far through Hype I have purchased: -SG Edition Codex -Datacards -A Regular Edition Codex because my SG has some major delivery issues -Exterminatus Hard Back -Heavily considering buying Deathstorm because of the amount of models for the price -Now I need 3 Storm Ravens Curse you beautiful angelic brothers! I share your red thirst brother. Through hype and codex I have bought: -Two Sanguinary Priests -Codex & Painting Guide -Datacards & Dice -Two boxes of Sanguinary Guard -Two Deathstorm's split with Tyrannid players -Another box of Death Company -Command Squad -Two boxes of BA Tactical Marines Now I'm debating BA Termies and more storm ravens, while my wife is debating murder weapons. Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Just to confirm, I've seen high res shots. It's 1 vanguard and 2 assault squads for the first formation. 3 and 3 for the second and deinftely accurate as written above . Two teleport homers, charge from reserve, turn one to enter play. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I was reading this page in the middle of class and then my friend asked why I started crying. I said these are tears of joy man. This formation made my day is this the current issue of white dwarf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This storm raven formation... It changes the game. It's the most ridiculous thing. I would have the flesh tearers formation with the "no penalty to disorganized charge" all deep strike. Game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 My nipple armor approves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The formation costs 1050 points bare minimum with no upgrades what so ever. If you give your tacticals special and heavy weapons and upgrade your sergeants it is somewhere around 1200. I don't know. It might work in a 1850/2000 point game but its still a bit dodgy. 3 ravens is just too much. Couldn't they at least make it two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 3 Ravens is a pretty steep ante to buy in on, but... Dang... Being able to assault out of Deep Strike changes the whole landscape of possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It would probably be manageable if it didn't have to be full 10 man tactical squads! But yeah 10 man is pretty unmanageable. Will be fun assault from deep strike with the entire 1 extra squad you can afford to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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