ContemptuousAngel Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This is interesting, as a drop pod is an assault vehicleNo GW drop pods are assault vehicles. BA, DA, SM and SW drop pods are vehicles (open topped, transport) and have three special rules drop pod assault, immobile and Inertial Guidance System. None of them allows disembarking units to charge. @Jolemai: To arrive from deep strike you have to have the deep strike or similar special rule. Tactical squads and Sternguard squads do not have that rule. So those units at least cannot arrive from deep strike. They (and it would not make sense for ASM to behave differently) simply arrive embarked in the drop pod, which arrives via deep strike. In order for a unit to be able to Deep Strike, all models in the unit must have the Deep Strike special rule and the unit must start the game in Reserve. [...] Deep Strike and Transports Units do not confer the Deep Strike special rule onto a Transport vehicle they are embarked inside. A Transport vehicle with Deep Strike may Deep Strike regardless of whether its passengers have Deep Strike or not. Only if the passengers do not arrive via deep strike can both rules apply. They simply appear on the battlefield in the drop pod and must disembark immediately following all rules for disembarking (i.e. no charging). All open-topped vehicles are Assault Vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Oops, I forgot about that. So let's charge from Drop Pods until they errata it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Now we are talking!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContemptuousAngel Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Just don't pull that on anyone you want to play against ever again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Why not? This could be intended.. We'll have to wait for an official answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I will pull this on all the bloody Eldar players in my area, and I will laugh heartily as I smash their stupid paper tanks into many tiny bits! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3892984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
girot Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I am going through my entire collection today and updating baggies and boxes to bring the queue into line with the new codex. I am also going to be reallocating my excess models over to Flesh Tearers. Formation Question: Say I run the Blood Rain Formation, but I want to include more than just what's listed. Do I have to run another Formation/Detachment/Thingy to get the rest of my army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Yes. You need another detachment with their included tax. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContemptuousAngel Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I will pull this on all the bloody Eldar players in my area, and I will laugh heartily as I smash their stupid paper tanks into many tiny bits!I am ok with this. Having seen serpent spam in action, I am ok with this, and I also play DE/E. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Yes. You need another detachment with their included tax.Or you could go unbound. The units from the formation would still get all the benefits of being a formation. The additional units however would not receive any detachment benefits like Red Thirst. Unlike other Detachments, Formations can also be taken as part of Unbound armies. If they are, their units maintain the special rules gained for being part of the Formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Tournaments don't allow detachments. Might provide variety. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsijben Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Tournaments need to adapt or they will die out. In a week we will have around 20 special detachments and they want to ban them? Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Major tournaments allow it. Many smaller ones as well. I do not see this a big deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/300476-new-ba-formations-in-wd-47/page/8/#findComment-3893126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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