Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hey I already have a squad of 5 havocs with 4 autocannons im wondering is it worth investing in a 2nd squad. I run a mostly mechanised army so these would be providing long range support alongside a unit of oblits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jackal Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Why not a Predator instead? Some better loadouts available with IA13 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Preds seem a bit expensive for what they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jackal Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "Mechanized" when 3 of your Heavy support slots will be infantry in that case. Rhinos? They would benefit from extra AV on the table. An Autocannon and Lascannon sponson Pred is fairly decent Have you played with a Predator Executioner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Infernal Relic Predator with Plasma Destroyer is only 110pts, this gives you a unit shooting 3 blast templates at S7 AP2 and no "Gets Hot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Ive never used a predator tbh my heavy support slots are usually taken by defiler obliterators and havocs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Underbelly Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I second the predator executioner... They're ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 How easy is it to convert one? or would i just be best off getting the one forgeworld sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 To run a predators you need at least 3 other av13 or higher targets. Otherwise it dies turn one, if it can draw LoS to enemy units. Also plasma template weapons are super bad post BA codex. as far as 2ed havock unit goes. No it would not be a good idea to run them, unless you play no missions and/or you have 3 pm melta squads in your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I like them when facing lots of 4+ armor without much cover. Against everything with better armor especially loyalist marines they are trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jackal Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 How easy is it to convert one? or would i just be best off getting the one forgeworld sell You may be able to do something with the ectoplasma cannons from the Forgefiends, which could be very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Infernal Relic Predator with Plasma Destroyer is only 110pts, this gives you a unit shooting 3 blast templates at S7 AP2 and no "Gets Hot". How does the relic pred not suffer from gets hot? Also plasma template weapons are super bad post BA codex. How has one codex made plasma blasts bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jackal Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Infernal Relic Predator with Plasma Destroyer is only 110pts, this gives you a unit shooting 3 blast templates at S7 AP2 and no "Gets Hot". How does the relic pred not suffer from gets hot? Also plasma template weapons are super bad post BA codex. How has one codex made plasma blasts bad? Do Plasma Destroyers have 'Gets Hot?' All the versions I can find don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I thought it did, but now I'm really not sure. It seems the newest version of the executioner plasma cannon in the new AM book does, and I've seen AM opponents role for gets hot but the older FW version may not have gets hot. Damn FW for not printing the weapon stats in IA13, really how hard would that have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I have two - why not?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 I actually find autocannons great vs marines but saying that i also like heavy bolters :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Have to ask but what else would you be using with them? It's all fair enough to ask what you have but without knowing what else is likely to hit the table it's tough to reply properly. You have said mechanized which most would guess at tanks, rhinos, and bikes. But you've already said your heavies are basically infantry. Please expand :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Have to ask but what else would you be using with them? It's all fair enough to ask what you have but without knowing what else is likely to hit the table it's tough to reply properly. You have said mechanized which most would guess at tanks, rhinos, and bikes. But you've already said your heavies are basically infantry. Please expand :tu: Basically im working towards a full mech list as such i would be buying the havocs rhinos so that should they become threatened they can get the hell out of there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliGn Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 How easy is it to convert one? or would i just be best off getting the one forgeworld sellYou may be able to do something with the ectoplasma cannons from the Forgefiends, which could be very cool I've been thinking about doing this for a while, budget is too tight at present, but I'd be interested to see examples. I think that it should be an option for chaos predators anyway. And land raiders for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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